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Hi, I'm looking to overclock the Athlon II X4 @ 2.8ghz, possibly without adding any more cooling; just the stock heatsink and fan, up to what maybe 3.2, is that realistic? Iv'e spent really the whole day so far researching, I've backed up data got targets in mind inc temperatures as well as fps in games and three programes for temperatures, stress testing and cpu details but could you answer a few questions before I start the proccess in bios please?

Firstly, I assume it'll void the warranty? What do you actually think I can push this thing to? And how much more clock speed if I were to upgrade the cooling system, could you briefly suggest how I would go about this. Also, what is the proccesser's specific temperature ranges? I've seen general ones, but what do you, for this particular CPU, suggest?

And, ideally I would want many more hz if possible but I'm not so sure about investing in a new cpu. I primarily run FSX and would like around 3.6 - 3.8 for this but obviously not with this cpu... unless I upgrade the cooling of course, or not even? So could tou suggest a card to buy to replace it, ideally shipping towards 3.4 and with potential to push up by .4, of course if it supports OCing. I don't mind dropping from 4 cores to two even as long as higher CS. But basically, what would be my best bet, considering value if my current processer wouldn't go very higher than it currently is? Motherboard is ECS elitegroup GeForce 6100PM-M2 so would need to be either Athlon, Phenom or Sempron right? Fair bit experience opening up PC case and how hardware works i've installed new RAM and Hard drive space before.

Many Thanks!
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I was able to do 3.4GHz on my 620 with no voltage increases. Usually the CPU really starts producing more heat when more vcore is applied.
Though your board is a very low end one. It's not made for overclocking so your options are limited. Plus I don't think the VRMs would last too long.
    
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hrmm..is the board at least 4+1?
i OC'd an athlon 2 x 4 620 to 3.6 on an m4n78 pro
WITH a phenom 2 cooler,though
those stock heatsinks are pretty bad
I was using 1.49v...temps got up to 49c...
I remember that cuz the numbers were the same :lachen.gif:
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I upgraded to a 1090T BE after my Athlon 620 @ 2.66.
I tried OC'ing with a Biostar mobo, that did not work well beside at stock clocks.

Stock cooling is never recommended, and is definitely not wise to try.
IIRC, my 620 was running around the 40s idling with the stock cooler, and with the Hyper 212+ cooler, dropped to solid 20s.
Full load was unbelievable.

http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K10/AMD-Athlon%20II%20X4%20630%20-%20ADX630WFK42GI%20(ADX630WFGIBOX).html
Reports between 55C and 71C.
Once it hits 70, it'll start throttling down to prevent damage, and right around 65, is when I would start worrying.

An Athlon 630 is a socket AM3.

I assume when you said card, you meant motherboard?

Any decent motherboard, will do you well, however I'd rather recommend you to upgrade your CPU & Mobo... overall, instead of sticking to the 630 with stock cooling.
Upgrade your cooler, and pick up a decent motherboard, and I've seen people take these Athlon chips far.

Please fill out your computer specs so we can further analyze your situation (like graphics, RAM, etc)
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I assume when you said card, you meant motherboard?
Any decent motherboard, will do you well, however I'd rather recommend you to upgrade your CPU & Mobo... overall, instead of sticking to the 630 with stock cooling.
Upgrade your cooler, and pick up a decent motherboard, and I've seen people take these Athlon chips far.
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Totally agree. They don't run too hot with a decent aftermarket cooler. Something like the CM212 will do. Cheap and very effective.

Then a decent motherboard should easily be able to push 3.6GHz plus with some minor tweaks.

My motherboard on the other hand is terrible and hit a FSB wall for some reason. lol
    
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Ok, thanks for all your input guys. The ECS not good for Overclocking, OK. Whilst I coukd get something like the Hyper 212 to allow me up to 3.5-3.8 ghz as someone else told me. I wouldn't want to buy that then find that the motherboard wouldn't support it, as you lot are suggesting. Since I'm not preapared to change the motherboard, and have a budget of only really around £100 as well, would you reccomend buying a new cpu altogether? Whilst it isn't good for overclocking would it work for a cpu that comes by default at the overclocked speeds I'm aiming for? Is 3.4ghz the highest reatailed? And which one - AMD and could I maybe squeez out a .1 or .2 on that do you think? Thanks!
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Keep the cpu and scrap the motherboard. As noted earlier, your 630 is a good cpu with decent oc potential on a decent MB and with decent cooling.

 

Depending on which bios you have, I believe these are the supported cpu lists for each:

 

Award Bios

 

AMI Bios

 

Tell us where you shop for hardware and we can make some suggestions to keep on budget.

 

 

 

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Sorry, as stated Changing the motherboard is not an option, too much expense and effort plus my parents won't allow it, lol. They're scared I'll break it! Anyway, no. Um it's a shame to waste the CPU current since it is pretty decent and I could get the cooling just the mobi isn't up to it. But I wondered, could I exchange it? Would any retailer offer a discount on new CPU?

I've got £60 in hand, how much could I get for it do you think? I need, lowest I've found is £80. And if I could afford it, would the motherboard be able take it? Even though it won't take an overclock above 2.8 or at Least 3, would it still take a much higher CPU above that if it comes at that by default - non overclocked? Or do amd overclock them before they're sold?

4ghz x 4 cores would do the job and knowing they're not to pricey makes it quite tempting! If it's a am3 socket that took the athlon, is the new bulldozers also compatible with boards that take Athlon and would tge frequency be ok, if it's high, non-overclocked?

I've read many forum posts where this would do the job and very keen! Especially since the old posts from about a year ago say to wait until it comes down in price, is. It now at a Lowe price than originally?

Anyway, thanks for help.
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Also, want to add, of I go for it; what comes in the box? Size, so I can check if fits? The heat sink and fan of course, is it really sufficient cooling? And really, are they any good? Seem pretty good value!

As before, really appreciate help.
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I guess if I go for the mega high frequency I could leave it at that and get peace of mind from not overclocking; no warranty void and much less danger whilst still providing massive performance! God I really hope it's an option.
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