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2/26/12 at 11:40am
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So that's how you justify your ignorance? Inserting words in to other people's posts that they didn't write? I'm sorry you're incapable of comprehending why a Trojan is not a Virus but hopefully someday you'll learn. Sending a Trojan to another user via P2P does nothing to their system unless they choose to manually open it and give it permissions to run.

But people buy Anti Virus programs to protect against Worms, Trojans and Virii.

There are Anti-Malware programs, but no Anti Worm/Anti Trojan, rather, haven't seen any program explicitly labeled as such.
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2/26/12 at 11:44am
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But people buy Anti Virus programs to protect against Worms, Trojans and Virii.
There are Anti-Malware programs, but no Anti Worm/Anti Trojan, rather, haven't seen any program explicitly labeled as such.

Marketing isn't a good place learn your terminology from.
Edited by PoopaScoopa - 2/26/12 at 1:49pm
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2/26/12 at 11:46am
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An 18-wheeler is a car. Arguing over it is just semantics. A vehicle is a vehicle.
Your ignorance on the extremely dangerous variant known as a Virus compared to a mild threat such as a Trojan is astounding. It's normal for a Trojan to keylog and backdoor your system. That's why they're called Trojans...

Excuse me?

I am by no means, 'ignorant' and, to suggest such is quite frankly both insulting and demeaning.

Your 18-wheeler analogy does not work.

If you believe trojans and worms to be a mild threat, then we clearly have nothing further to discuss.

Ever heard of W32-Nimda?

No? Thought not.

It took down a 300-machine network and 6 NT4 load-balanced servers. in under 15 minutes on an ISDN line

Pretty mild really... eh?

He likes the word ignorant. wink.gif

I'm sure most of OCN knows what a trojan is. The general public does not know the difference. Therefor if you say "Hey, there's a pretty bad trojan out and about for Macs... be careful," the "general public" will SEE it as a virus. I don't get why there's all this nitpicking about the single term out of the entire issue. "Teeheeee lol it's not a virus noob." No, it may not be, but you're certainly among the typical obnoxious internet user. Eat the typo (or selected wording) and move on to the actual topic.

In the end, virus or not (who the hell cares, that's completely aside from the topic at hand) it's just funny to see it happening. When the problem becomes widespread and more people create similar malware, it'll be quite a pleasing "I told you so" from those with technical worthiness that know Apple aren't "the best" and have made a mockery of their somewhat deceptive marketing of being "invincible" and whatnot.
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2/26/12 at 11:51am
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lachen.gif Why are you on an enthusiast computer forum again?

You should be on an "enthusiast mac" forum. thumb.gif
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2/26/12 at 11:52am
Anyone who thinks Apple PCs do not get baddies is a noob. I have repair several already. One of the most recent ones had so much spyware/fruadware/malware (Call what you want) that it could not be cleaned, I had to reformat the whole system and re-install everything.


Notice how Apples not pushing those ads hard anymore.


Things have changed.

Apple rarely ever got baddies in the past because they had a low user count, but with there new found popularity they are getting hit with baddies and will get hit harder in the next few years. An added plus for baddie developers is; most Apple PC users are naive. Most of them have no clue. They think they are fully secured and can download and install anything they want, until they discover there computer is not working right and a tech tells them they got baddies (spyware/fruadware/malware). They usely respond with something like; But, Apple computers do not get viruses!


The word Virus is not used anymore (Atleast like it was). The game has changed do to so many different type of baddies (Viruses). So, now they are categorized (spyware/fruadware/malware/etc).

Funny thing is. Windows 7 + Microsoft Security Essentials is better than Apple OS with little to nothing... 2 plus years with Windows 7 + Microsoft Security Essentials and never got a baddie. Over 1700 customers in the past year with the same and no complaints. All systems still running nice and smooth...
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2/26/12 at 11:54am
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He likes the word ignorant. wink.gif
I'm sure most of OCN knows what a trojan is. The general public does not know the difference. Therefor if you say "Hey, there's a pretty bad trojan out and about for Macs... be careful," the "general public" will SEE it as a virus. I don't get why there's all this nitpicking about the single term out of the entire issue. "Teeheeee lol it's not a virus noob." No, it may not be, but you're certainly among the typical obnoxious internet user. Eat the typo (or selected wording) and move on to the actual topic.
In the end, virus or not (who the hell cares, that's completely aside from the topic at hand) it's just funny to see it happening. When the problem becomes widespread and more people create similar malware, it'll be quite a pleasing "I told you so" from those with technical worthiness that know Apple aren't "the best" and have made a mockery of their somewhat deceptive marketing of being "invincible" and whatnot.

Exactly - Virus, trojan, malware, spyware, crudware, crapware... semantics.
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You should be on an "enthusiast mac" forum. thumb.gif

Edited by newphase - 2/26/12 at 11:56am
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2/26/12 at 12:01pm
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Anyone who thinks Apple PCs do not get baddies is a noob. I have repair several already. One of the most recent ones had so much spyware/fruadware/malware (Call what you want) that it could not be cleaned, I had to reformat the whole system and re-install everything.
Notice how Apples not pushing those ads hard anymore.
Things have changed.
Apple rarely ever got baddies in the past because they had a low user count, but with there new found popularity they are getting hit with baddies and will get hit harder in the next few years. An added plus for baddie developers is; most Apple PC users are naive. Most of them have no clue. They think they are fully secured and can download and install anything they want, until they discover there computer is not working right and a tech tells them they got baddies (spyware/fruadware/malware). They usely response with something like; But, Apple computers do not get virus!
The word Virus is not used anymore (Atleast like it was). The game has changed do to so many different type of baddies (Viruses). So, now they are categorized (spyware/fruadware/malware/etc).
Funny thing is. Windows 7 + Microsoft Security Essentials is better than Apple OS with little to nothing... 2 plus years with Windows 7 + Microsoft Security Essentials and never got a baddie. over 1700 customers in the past year with the same and no complaints. All systems still running nice and smooth...

No one said Macs don't get malware. Nothing is 100% secure. There's what? 2 new Trojans a year? Meanwhile, there still hasn't been a single Virus in the past 12 years of OSX. OS 9 had plenty of Viruses back when it had a much smaller market-share. Today, with over 50 Million users, there's still not a single Virus for OSX. That market-share argument is a bit silly. If Ubuntu had 90% market-share, would it too be regularly exploited as easily as Windows is? Of course not.

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Exactly - Virus, trojan, malware, spyware, crudware, crapware... semantics.

18 wheeler, RV, pickup truck, motorcycle, car....semantics lachen.gif
Edited by PoopaScoopa - 2/26/12 at 12:04pm
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2/26/12 at 12:06pm
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18 wheeler, RV, pickup truck, motorcycle, car....semantics lachen.gif

Linux.. Unix.. Mac.. Pc.. Semantics. thumb.gif
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Where is i get this trojan? I want my mac to be strong. tongue.gif
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2/26/12 at 12:10pm
18 wheeler, RV, pickup truck, motorcycle, car....semantics lachen.gif[/quote]

What?
Huh?

Please explain the lachen as it makes no sense to me.
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