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I'm on android and I'm not worried...
This is all blown out of proportion by the papers, Most of the things listed by each app are what they need and are basic things needed to find friends and to link accounts.
Facebook goes through your call log and contacts to try and match contact details to accounts on Facebook to try and find you more friends.
The others are the same, They look at all the information on your device and then try and use it to match things to recommend to you.
What would be the correct question to ask is how often do these apps access your call log and your text messages, Just because an app can access this information doesn't meen it has/does.
If the article can show actual proof of these apps accessing and transmitting personal data at a frequent rate then I'll take notice but until then this is just the media doing what they do best.

Then why does angry birds need to know who I'm calling? Location information I can udnerstand to see what areas play or download the game the most. But other than that angry birds shouldn't neeed to do any of that.
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As long as their browser counterparts don't do the same, I'm fine.

I brouse FB, Yahoo news and all of the other services ('cept for GMail) in the browser.
   
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Then why does angry birds need to know who I'm calling? Location information I can udnerstand to see what areas play or download the game the most. But other than that angry birds shouldn't neeed to do any of that.

It probably just wants to know if your getting a phone call (to pause the game or whatever), I seriously doubt its making a log of WHO your calling then sending it back to the developers.

http://techpp.com/2010/07/30/android-apps-permissions-secure-private-data/
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I'm on android and I'm not worried...
This is all blown out of proportion by the papers, Most of the things listed by each app are what they need and are basic things needed to find friends and to link accounts.
Facebook goes through your call log and contacts to try and match contact details to accounts on Facebook to try and find you more friends.
The others are the same, They look at all the information on your device and then try and use it to match things to recommend to you.
What would be the correct question to ask is how often do these apps access your call log and your text messages, Just because an app can access this information doesn't meen it has/does.
If the article can show actual proof of these apps accessing and transmitting personal data at a frequent rate then I'll take notice but until then this is just the media doing what they do best.

Then why does angry birds need to know who I'm calling? Location information I can udnerstand to see what areas play or download the game the most. But other than that angry birds shouldn't neeed to do any of that.

And yet were is the actual proof that it is actively sending this information to the developers?

If you go and read the privacy policy for angry birds its states

"The types of personal data may vary depending on the type of activity you are engaged in"

So they don't just collect it, It depends on what the end user is doing.

Blown way out proportion this is...


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I cant see what the problem is, if you're not breaking any laws...

I'll hack your network and have a peek. If you're not doing anything illegal there is not problem, eh?
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I cant see what the problem is, if you're not breaking any laws...

Would you like the government to set a camera in your bathroom filming you taking a dump? I mean, it's not like you're breaking any laws.
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Then why does angry birds need to know who I'm calling? Location information I can udnerstand to see what areas play or download the game the most. But other than that angry birds shouldn't neeed to do any of that.

It probably just wants to know if your getting a phone call (to pause the game or whatever), I seriously doubt its making a log of WHO your calling then sending it back to the developers.

http://techpp.com/2010/07/30/android-apps-permissions-secure-private-data/

That is a very good point, Games and apps need to know when to pause and some apps even ask you if would like to pause and take the call.

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In the west most countries are free markets. Nobody is forcing anybody to use these services. If you do not do your due diligence and are unaware of these things going on, this is your fault. If you know it and continue to use them, also your choice. The easiest way to stop this is to stop using services that do this sort of thing, they will go broke, the next company will learn from their mistakes. The opposite is also true. Continue to use them and all companies after them will push it a little further with each iteration.

Consumers will gladly sacrifice freedom/privacy for convenience any day a the week. The further from visible surveillance you go the more you can invade privacy without a person complaining so long as you grant them something they deem convenient or valuable. It's as simple as that.
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Yup, takes 2 to tango. Developers have no need or business collecting such information and users need to learn to be responsible for their own actions. Problem is that people are stupid and developers are typically smart, but greedy.

^Damn straight. How many people actually knew/know that text messaging cost telecoms nothing to provide?
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pretty sure that if this becomes invasive enough for people to really take notice, then we will see a large backlash. For now, I don't think that this information is being collected for malicious purposes. But if it were to fall into the wrong hands, we would have a huge problem of privacy leaks.

Malicious is subjective (up for interpretation). I think it's malicious that a company can make a profit or in someway enrich itself by use of my information without my consent or giving me compensation.
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I cant see what the problem is, if you're not breaking any laws...
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I hate these types of dumb arguments... Ever heard of a fundamental right called PRIVACY?
Data mining non-personal statistics for product improvement is completely understandable, however reading text messages, personal pictures, and caller ID's is definitely crossing the line. The developers have no need to collect and use such information.
+1 to this. This is why Im thinking about getting rid of my droid and going back to regular no data phone. there is no such thing as privacy anymore

Even with a no data phone you are still tracked/trackable. There is no privacy when profits are the goal. Hell one of the guys behind the old "first" mobile phone was on TV talking about how privacy will end sometime in the near future. He didn't even think it was wrong since he said it would be better for ads to know exactly his interests and weed out those he wasn't interested in.

PS: @ Artikbot: the browser counterparts probably are just as/nearly as capable.
     
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That is a very good point, Games and apps need to know when to pause and some apps even ask you if would like to pause and take the call.
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I'm going by what the chart says. It says "Who you are calling". Assuming that wording is correct. It shouldn't know who I'm calling much less that I'm making a call since you can't make a call to someone else and play the same time any way. Now if the wording was "checks to see if call is incoming/in progress" then thats a different story.
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And the end of the day if it was as bad as this article says it would of been found out by the community.

HTC's key logging was discovered by the community just like all the other dodgey stuff is.

If it was this bad it would of been spotted.

Some noob has obviously just read the policies from a few apps, got over excited, assumed worse case and then over blown it in an article

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