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They arent breaking any laws. If you sign a contract, someone can kill you and be left without any harm due to a contractual agreement. People just dont reed it.
This reminds me of that southpark episode... HUMANCENiPAD

No contract can violate the law.

It's illegal.
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It's not surprising that the vast majority either agree with this, couldn't care less or are unaware. This is exactly what they feed off of. As long as the majority remain ignorant, heedless or are too busy focusing on their own little hemispheres (ie. entertainment, social life, work, etc.) they will continue to take advantage by taking away your privacy, freedom, liberty, etc. The less you care, the more they take.
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From the article:
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To read the article, click here.

They forgot to put "Google" on the list. Pretty much anything they make will track you (note that "Android" is not "Google", at least not yet).
Edited by ILoveHighDPI - 2/26/12 at 9:21pm
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In the west most countries are free markets. Nobody is forcing anybody to use these services. If you do not do your due diligence and are unaware of these things going on, this is your fault. If you know it and continue to use them, also your choice. The easiest way to stop this is to stop using services that do this sort of thing, they will go broke, the next company will learn from their mistakes. The opposite is also true. Continue to use them and all companies after them will push it a little further with each iteration.


This. People are way too paranoid and try to drag out everything by making ridiculous scenarios/examples to support their argument. Also, it makes sense that these apps have those access. Are you honestly surprised that SOCIAL apps know your contacts, who you talk to, location, and text messages?

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I have to confess, my post was meant to raise this sort of response and I feel exactly the same way about the issue. Not trolling but playing devils advocate I suppose. The only way to really address this is for everyone to actually understand what they are agreeing to in the first place, make a stand and not use the service.
I would imagine that there is a lot of room in the market place for someone to roll out services that are not intrusive and use the privacy issue as a selling tool, with a user agreement that is actually easy to understand and with no clauses that mean the user is agreeing to practically selling their soul to the corporations.
The trouble is, the younger generation have been trained to not value their privacy. I've had discussions with younger family members who actually snigger and think im odd for having a problem with this sort of thing and that I value my privacy. Parents need to make the effort to understand what is happening and take the time to educate their children.
 

Dont worry , though. I believe it is parents job to teach their kids the privacy and how to value it. When a just semi check some facebook profiles of my colleagues i can clearly see what were they doing the whole day, they have no sense of privacy and the worst - some truly D take pics from Toilet for instance. That is quite absurd.

One way to value my privacy is to not use such service. They have little value for me anyway. If anything i will get ESET Smart Security 5 on Android as well and get rid of every such app and use browser for it if necessary.

What i originally wanted to say was that i am 17 ( 2 months to 18 ) years old and so that not every young kid will trade the privacy for anything else. For the most part, its the minority but i nor you can change it.
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First off, sorry for all the quotes.....
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This isn't news. Probably Apple paying for some BS story twisting the access rights apps require when you install them.
No, it's happening, spin it any which way you choose. Facebook admitted to reading its users' text messages.
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*Gasp* This just in: When you are born, you are automatically committed to a contract where people can see everything you do if you do it in public space.

"Nuff said. If you're transmitting digital information through a company network, they reserve every right to monitor the content. It is unfortunate, and sure, I disagree with it (I don't want some analyst reading all my texts and seeing my photos regardless of the fact that they have no clue who I am) but it's a wasted effort to complain about it. The only way to combat it and have it changed is to speak with your wallets and make the firms aware they have to change their ways to earn back their customers. Life goes on, do the same.
Have you seen "The Final Cut"? thumb.gif

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When I read this I immediately think of Android and its openness. It very easy to get an Android app online, but, who checks to see that the app does only what it says it would? Is it Google's responsibility to protect their users or is the user that should take on the responsibility of protecting themselves?
In a perfect world, the corporation involved would take a more proactive approach in protecting their customers' rights. Sadly, this is not the case. Ultimately, it IS the users' responsibility to realize what they are agreeing to. Period. Ignorance of a clause in contract does not void the clause.
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To think I saw this coming 15 years ago when I was a kid. This is the main reason I don't do social networking and have important info/photos online. It is amazing at some of the responses...we really are turning into a sheeple generation.

I like my privacy and I don't think anyone should be able to track me like they do. I blocked SIX "tracking" companies from Overclock.net alone....some sites its as high as 30.
What sites did you find from OCN?
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Hi,

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Originally Posted by SillyconeChip View Post

I cant see what the problem is, if you're not breaking any laws...

It is the HUGE problem that THEY are Breaking the Law!

What would happen to the mailman, the guy that delivers your mail letters if every time you would sent a letter on the post office a person would open it up and took copies of what was inside ?
That is a crime punished by the law. It actually does give Jail time to anyone who does that.

People are so much completely brainwashed that no one even thinks about the obvious ...
The problem is Obvious! Those operators are snooping at Private data!
And privacy is not only a Right but a Fundamental Constitutional Freedom !

Regards.
No laws are being broken.
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The Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Once you sign the contractual agreement, you waive your rights in regards to data privacy. The "seizures" are no longer unwarrented or unreasonable, you said "ok". And, someone correct me if Im off here as I hold no law degree, but I dont believe the IV Amendment applies here. Not to mention there is no mention of privacy in the US Constitution. http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/bill_of_rights_transcript.html
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Wow, is this article for real?
They read contact back and text messaging for file sharing services, so you can share/sync directly through these features.
They access GPS so you can POST YOUR LOCATION. Shocking!
They access your camera so you can take a picture within the app.
They can see who calls in case you get a call whilst using the app.
I didn't read any of the comments, but I would hope people aren't as stupid as this author.

yeah, basically they're taking the functions of the apps (i.e. flickr has access to your camera app so you can upload pictures) and twisting it into "flickr is looking at your pictures and sending them to the government"

and this isn't in the elusive "EULA" it's on the app download screen, it says here's what this app can access.

if you don't like it then don't install.

and if you're concerned about privacy, don't own a phone/computer. everything you send over the airwaves or through a wire can be stolen/monitored so privacy people shouldn't be affected by something as risky as a smartphone.
Ok, so Flickr accesses your phone so you can upload pictures...sure,that makes sense. How does Facebook reading your text messages make sense?
Just throwing my 2cents.gif in while the First Amendment still exists. wth.gif
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Apps like facebook, twitter, flickr, need access to the camera in order to directly upload pictures.

Also, please don't use the daily mail as a source. It's worse than fox.
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Ok, so Flickr accesses your phone so you can upload pictures...sure,that makes sense. How does Facebook reading your text messages make sense?
Just throwing my 2cents.gif in while the First Amendment still exists. wth.gif

facebook is linked to your contact list for pictures that it provides, to your text messages because it can send them via facebook, camera so you can upload pics, so on and so forth.

here is a sane article from pcmag:
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It remains unclear, however, whether an actual representative at Facebook actually admitted that the company did just that, or whether the Sunday Times is perhaps mistakenly taking an Android application's "permissions requested" as a literal representation of what the app will do once installed.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2400758,00.asp

what we all kind of figured. daily mail took the easy to read (not hidden in the Illuminati written EULA, but provided clear as day for the user so he/she can decide if they want it or not) functions that the app can access, and turned it into facebook is reading your text messages. it's just sensationalist journalism.

but as i said in the block that you quoted, if you're really that worried about privacy you shouldn't even own a phone or be on the internet.
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Does this mean 02 knows what adult material I have stashed on my phone... rolleyes.gif

Yes, and you're sick!

Only use services you need, understand and trust. Everything else can take a hike. Things are only going to get more integrated and less transparent as companies leverage their networks and ability to gather data to give them an advantage in the market. Education and communication are the best weapons.
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The problem is, as long as the user clicks "Agree" without reading the fine print, they pretty much agree to be wiretapped and data collection.

Which to me is just shady, these corporations obviously plan to use and share this information to someone...

We live in the Informational Age, which is what websites like Facebook thrive and grow on AS A BUSINESS!

The truth is, all of these websites want YOUR INFORMATION, so they can sell it!
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