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Investing $799 in CPU for 4 year old platform that may die in any moment is certainly not something I would do. I got X79 because of how cheap it is compared to what it offers, I was temporarily out of money for upgrade, if I was to spend $799+ then I would jest get the newest platform, at least new mobo to have any assurance, and used CPU like 5960X that still has about 2 years of warranty, it is very similar in price and actually findable in my country. Maybe I am missing something out on this Xeon, I don't know much about Xeons, but if the price of used 4 year old platform is the same as half new half used the newest platform on warranty with a new mobo then whats the point of risking. Not to mention that if Intel has any intentions of competing with Ryzen value vise then they will have to release 8c/16t for about the price as used 5960x/1680v2. I still stay behind what I said, no major moves and investments until the situation on the market is clear and prices defined.

Purely to benchmark again with ofc ! yessir.gif

I wanna bench again without having to spend $3500 to go x99 , x299 ..........

That kind of money would get me a NA-T conversion done on my Lexy
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it´s so hard to find a x79 mobo on ebay^^

There are many more of them then when I looked for mine, but most of them are from China and places like that, and most of the rest, mostly from Germany, are much more expensive than brand new X99 mobos, many of them basically as expensive as the most expensive X99 mobos. Not to mention what happens if you for example need specific PCI-E slots arrangement, how little your choice becomes then. It makes sense to spend those let's say $250 for used X79 to be able to get CPU dirt cheap, I paid for my 4820K about what you need to pay for new modern lowest end i3. In this way it makes a lot of sense and I took the risk with used X79 mobo and paid as much as for entry X99 to avoid paying $500 for 40 lane X99 CPU.

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Purely to benchmark again with ofc ! yessir.gif

I wanna bench again without having to spend $3500 to go x99 , x299 ..........

That kind of money would get me a NA-T conversion done on my Lexy

$3500? How? Even buying everything new, 5960X for ~$800, let's say some overly expensive $500 mobo and 32 GB of DDR4 3200 RAM for ~$250, thats not even $1500, and that is going unnecessary expensive, $300 mobo and 16 GB will do it too, plus used 5960X and you are closer to $1000 than $1500. Prices for X299 for unknown yet, but with Ryzen bringing 8c/16t to $350 range Intel has to release 8c/16t CPU for much cheaper than X5960 or 6900K, so you will probably be able to get everything new for around $1000, and this Xeon you are talking about is $750 by itself. $3500 is barely even possible with 6950X, the most expensive mobo and tons of RAM.
Edited by Krzych04650 - 4/8/17 at 8:32am
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Easy at Australian prices, especially if you get the lot, and don't reuse any parts or ancillaries from a previous build.
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Easy at Australian prices, especially if you get the lot, and don't reuse any parts or ancillaries from a previous build.

Tell me about prices, your prices are similar to ones in Poland and you earn 3 times more. Even if costs of life are much higher, you are still in at least 2 times better situation. Tech prices are high almost everywhere except US, but what matter is how it compares to earnings. 5960X is worth more than average salary in Poland, and average salary is not really a representative of anything, median is about 2200 PLN = 730 AUD.
Edited by Krzych04650 - 4/8/17 at 1:14pm
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Not just CPU, the whole PC, with psu, monitor(s), etc. That what we're estimating. To quote HOMECINEMA-PC "without having to spend $3500 to go x99 , x299". Currently he's X79. I understand what he's saying. I've dropped that kind of money (and more) on a new rig myself.
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Just did a quick selection of the basic stuff I want if I was to do it ............

+ Cpu water block

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Not just CPU, the whole PC, with psu, monitor(s), etc. That what we're estimating. To quote HOMECINEMA-PC "without having to spend $3500 to go x99 , x299". Currently he's X79. I understand what he's saying. I've dropped that kind of money (and more) on a new rig myself.

Switching platform involves changing CPU, mobo and RAM. This is what you have to spend money for. If he said "having to spend $3500 for x99 or x299" then I assumed that he means platform, not entire PC. What's the point of giving the price of entirely new PC if we talk about switching platform, and for one with very similar power requirements and heat generation, so there is no need to upgrade anything else. I wouldn't want to upgrade to new platform either if I had to spend $1500 on a new platform but I would tell myself that it is $3500.
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I am in the same situation and I decided to see what X299 brings first. Also I have already seen some used 5960X units for a sensible prices, so that's the direction I will go if X299 flops and gives no sensible improvement in performance or value. I thought about 4960X and more RAM but expanding end of life platform that may die in any moment and you will have extremely hard time finding good X79 mobo, and you will pay just like for new X99 ones, doesn't seem to be a good move. In newest games like Watch Dogs 2 those CPUs are starting to show their age too, even with 60 Hz gaming. I decided that CPU upgrade is not a pressing matter and I will wait for Intel response to Ryzen and decide what to do once I have full insight on the market and prices. There are going to be many opportunities for upgrade in Q3/Q4, used X99, new X299... I hate waiting and I never do that but doing major upgrade right now with current situation on the market is just unwise, unless you are sure that current products will fit you and you agree for prices Intel has.

Well, i already have a Sabertooth x79, and i can get a rampage extreme for about 50USD giving my sabertooth in return... A 5960x would be a better option if prices drop, but i would have to change the whole plataform, ddr4, x99 and obviously the CPU, a huge investment compared to change only the 4820k for the 4960x. Do you know when does the x299 comes ?Thanks for your insights.
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Well, i already have a Sabertooth x79, and i can get a rampage extreme for about 50USD giving my sabertooth in return... A 5960x would be a better option if prices drop, but i would have to change the whole plataform, ddr4, x99 and obviously the CPU, a huge investment compared to change only the 4820k for the 4960x. Do you know when does the x299 comes ?Thanks for your insights.

Certainly a huge investment compared to just expanding X79, I am not ruling out upgrading to 4930K/4960X either, but it depends on prices of used X99/new X299 parts. If they are attractive enough then I will upgrade and if not then I will expand X79 to 6c/12t and more RAM.

Latest leaks say about launch/presentation on Computex, May 30-June 3. Availability is not known yet. It was scheduled for September but was rescheduled to June.
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Certainly a huge investment compared to just expanding X79, I am not ruling out upgrading to 4930K/4960X either, but it depends on prices of used X99/new X299 parts. If they are attractive enough then I will upgrade and if not then I will expand X79 to 6c/12t and more RAM.

Latest leaks say about launch/presentation on Computex, May 30-June 3. Availability is not known yet. It was scheduled for September but was rescheduled to June.

Thanks, i think i'll wait then. I have a 24gb 1866 RAM running in triple channel, don't think i'll need more for a while.
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