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Heh, even if Amd K8l manage to out perform the Core2Duo processor when it come out, by that time 45nm is just around the corner. The point is, Intel already have like a year of advancement in term of Cpu marketing/technology. So it'd be very hard for Amd this time around; Amd really need to work more than 2 times the amount they've had in the past inorder to keep up with Intel.
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I think the real question wil be who breaks the mold that current cpu's and systems are based off of today? I have always joked about "socket-set", video cards and crap like that. What about a new break through, like an upgradable NorthBridge chip w/ integrated RAM, or something NEW? Personnaly I think AMD and Intel are FAR BEHIND the curve if you ask me. Instead of looking for something new, they are using the same approach all American production companies use-> Revamp the same ol' $hite and put more 'bells and whistles' on it..................wooooooohoooooooooo.
AMD and Intel are not behind the curve.. it's the OS and the game makers that are behind the curve. The buyers just get sucked into the jargon that newer is better, and will give you 999FPS in oblivion instead of 998. Hardware currenly is good, everything runs fast, but it could be better with better software! Thanks microsoft.
    
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AMD and Intel are not behind the curve.. it's the OS and the game makers that are behind the curve. The buyers just get sucked into the jargon that newer is better, and will give you 999FPS in oblivion instead of 998. Hardware currenly is good, everything runs fast, but it could be better with better software! Thanks microsoft.
I'm gonna have to disagree with you there. Newer games are pretty much slapping the mainstream market in the face. How many people on OEM Pc's do you think can get decent FPS rates on Oblivion with any kind of decent settings? You didn't always need a $400 GPU just to run games decently
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if intel wins it will SUCK!@##@$
intel will gain total controll on the main CPU stream,and then they can do whatever,make good or bad cpus and products,and nothing will stand in there way because no other company would exsist.
but keep in mind,that AMD bought ATI completly.meaning they earn NICE money from ati's sellings
not to mention that intel released core2duo kinda early in my opinion
they coulda make it better,now they give AMD the chance to pull ahead
and if AMD manages to come up with a procces that will do more operations per cycle then those of intel,the 2 companys will be brought to a stable situation again! and we the consumers would continue to enjoy a VARIATY OF CHOICE.
    
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Theres no way anyone will know how the Altair will compete against the Yorkfield. 7 Pages on this and nobody mentioned that the Altair has 2MB of L3 Cache? Intel may be in the lead now but AMD will come back eventually.

With all this competing we'll have like 32 Ops per clock on 16 core CPUs by 2010..
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Theres no way anyone will know how the Altair will compete against the Yorkfield. 7 Pages on this and nobody mentioned that the Altair has 2MB of L3 Cache? Intel may be in the lead now but AMD will come back eventually.

With all this competing we'll have like 32 Ops per clock on 16 core CPUs by 2010..
Don't forget about the 3ghz HTT. Even if this thing isn't useful for desktops, this will be HIGHLY scalable for multi-socket systems.
    
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Everyone seems to think IBM, VIA, and every other chip maker in existence don't count.
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possibly that amd has their heads up ati's butt with making the new cngpu that they left the quad core battle on pause. Maybe doing the cngpu amd wont lose out too much in the markets. LONG LIVE AMD!!!
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I honestly think Intel needs to up their L1 cache- I saw memtest86's report of how fast it is, and L1 cache is crazy fast! Over 2x faster than L2, now that is where we will really see a jump in performance. However, as we all know, L1 is very expensive and difficult to manufacture, which is why we have 12MB now of L2 cache
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I honestly think Intel needs to up their L1 cache- I saw memtest86's report of how fast it is, and L1 cache is crazy fast! Over 2x faster than L2, now that is where we will really see a jump in performance. However, as we all know, L1 is very expensive and difficult to manufacture, which is why we have 12MB now of L2 cache
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Isn't it the other way around? I thought the L2 cache is faster and more expensive to make then L1
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