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post #21 of 61
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Originally Posted by Darylrese View Post

Bulldozer is a long way behind the i5 2500k and above for gaming because it doesnt utalise it's cores as well as intel chips do. It also runs hotter and doesn't overclock as well. Although the top end BD has 8 cores, they are useless in gaming as most games only support 4 cores. The i5 2500k is actually cheaper than the 8 core 8150 and will perform MUCH better.
I went from a AMD 1090T 6 core to a i5 2500k and the different was amazing. I won't be going back to AMD.
Games don't utilize Bulldozer that well....
BF3 uses about half of the FX 8120's cores for example.
Skyrim uses 1/4.
post #22 of 61
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Originally Posted by 1337LutZ View Post

These are all single threaded tests.
Bulldozer IS better in multithreaded test vs. its previous line.

Hey fair enough man,fair enough tongue.gif thats a whole discussion of its own i guess redface.gif

Bit off topic here but...are you following me or something on here ? only it seems you posted few times directly after me rolleyes.gifbiggrin.gif
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post #23 of 61
Also compare apples to apples
your FX-8120 is about $200
The price equivalent is a mid range i5

So if you are on a budget the the AMDs make alot of sense.

For me i was on a budget and i picked an FX-6100 6-core 3.3GHz over an Intel i3 Dual Core 3.4GHz [both cost the same], i am getting more bang for my buck.
So to compare an FX-8120 to any i7 is slightly unfair.

It would be like comparing a Muscle Car to a Super Car.
Both are crazy FAST cars but one obviously will out perform the other.
post #24 of 61
OP, you could just pop in a 960T, 970, or one of the x6s and call it a day. http://www.asrock.com/mb/cpu.asp?Model=A780FullDisplayPort

I noticed a big difference going from 7850 to 955.
post #25 of 61
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Originally Posted by FuzzyPants View Post

Also compare apples to apples
your FX-8120 is about $200
The price equivalent is a mid range i5
So if you are on a budget the the AMDs make alot of sense.
For me i was on a budget and i picked an FX-6100 6-core 3.3GHz over an Intel i3 Dual Core 3.4GHz [both cost the same], i am getting more bang for my buck.
So to compare an FX-8120 to any i7 is slightly unfair.
It would be like comparing a Muscle Car to a Super Car.
Both are crazy FAST cars but one obviously will out perform the other.

No one is comparing it to a 2600k. They're comparing it to the 2500k which is the same price as the 8120 or if you live a near a Microcenter it's only $180. There's no reason not to go Intel when their mainstream affordable CPUs are the best out there.
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post #26 of 61
I'm not sure what you are planning on doing with your computer, but if it involves gaming I would definitely go with Intel. 2500k, flip the multiplier to 45, voltage to 1.35v and your done.

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Quoting Tomshardware
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With the sub-$100 Pentiums performing so well, Intel's $125 Core i3-2100 easily beats more expensive Phenom II and FX models. And the $190 Core i5-2400 dominates the sub-$200 landscape without challenge, really. As such, we're almost-shockingly left without an AMD CPU to recommend at any price point.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-fx-pentium-apu-benchmark,3120-10.html

Plus Intel cpus have lower power consumption, less heat, easy overclocking, and better clock for clock performance.
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post #27 of 61
Hey honestly dont listen to the huge amount of bashing that has been done on the processor, all that you'll get out of it is the fact that yes intel is dominating amd and yes intel has way better offerings but

If you are on a budget IT IS STILL A VIABLE CHOICE.

In a short period of time I'm ordering a FX-4100, asrock 970 extreme4(great board friend has one), CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB ddr3 1600

I'm getting that for under $300, I may be recycling everything else in my pc towards it but way back when I bought this rig (as a deal on newegg that at the time was just amazing) it was $300 for the cpu mobo and ram so copared to back then I would say the difference is not bad.

They really aren't "bad" chips they just aren't the top of the line destroy everything chips and that is why you see so much bashing. I think it has a lot to do with how over hyped the BD was.

Good luck on you decision. thumb.gif
     
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post #28 of 61
In a nutshell:

Bulldozer is far from bad, but Sandy is better.
   
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post #29 of 61
Depends what your usage consists of. If the majority of your usage consists of video encoding/converting/editing and archiving, you want Bulldozer. If the majority of your usage consists of gaming, you want Sandy Bridge.Each has its own strengths and weaknesses. There is not one perfect cpu for everything out there.
post #30 of 61
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No one is comparing it to a 2600k. They're comparing it to the 2500k which is the same price as the 8120 or if you live a near a Microcenter it's only $180. There's no reason not to go Intel when their mainstream affordable CPUs are the best out there.

I misread, i thought some one mentioned an i7
but i was basing my pricing off of newegg where the 2500k is $225 and the 8120 is $199.
Yes not alot of software is currently taking advantage of the 6-8 cores, but we all know in a year or two they will be.
That is when you will see the FX really shine.
Best example i can compare this to is 64bit cpu's, windows xp wasnt really ready for them but AMD put them out there and when the software caught up, they out performed Intel.
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