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post #31 of 39
dang... doesnt seem like good news frown.gif Last month i ended up picking up 32GB of ddr3 for my system, Seems like a better investment now.
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post #32 of 39
It's possible that the supply impact of Elpida leaving the market was already at least partially factored into the market price of the product. Elpida has been on death's door for a while now. It's kind of like oil prices going up in anticipation that something bad is going to happen in Iran; when/if something bad does happen over there that would legitimately impact the supply of oil, prices wont shoot up as much as they would have if the markets paid no attention to what could happen if things went south over there.

If that makes sense.
    
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post #33 of 39
So the prediction about RAM not getting any lower in price is true? No!!!!
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post #34 of 39
Quote:
Originally Posted by Demonkev666 View Post

um didn't another memory manufacturer state that prices would go up , I smell insider trading. >.>
Um hMMMMM O.o?

Before the death of Steve Appleton, Micron was talking with Elpida regarding possible equity and business partnership (some version of the story also involves Nanya).
It is perfectly normal for Micron to have knowledge of the Elpida's financial condition as part of the pre-partnership due diligence. Plus the bad financial condition of Elpida was probably an open secret in the DRAM business. However most people were probably betting that the Japanese government/state owned bank would step in to help Elpida with the maturing debt, and didn't expect Elpida to actually file for bankruptcy protection this soon.

While many people were probably aware of Elpida's financial condition, I don't see how simply saying DRAM price 'I don't think DRAM [pricing] goes down from here, it's starting to feel like a stable market.' qualifies as insider trading smile.gif

But as an stock option holder of Micron, I'm very happy to see Elpida's bankruptcy biggrin.gif
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post #35 of 39
Quote:
Originally Posted by Riou View Post

Don't get hung up too much latency. Latency is just measured in clock ticks not actual access time. Even though latency is higher, increased bandwidth will reduce cycle and word times. Cycle times are going to be sub 1ns.
With DDR4 in the future, releasing uber-fast, low latency DDR3 is pointless.
I'm not sure that I agree with that statement. I just sold my 12GB of low-latency 1600MHz 6-7-6 DRAM based on Elpida BBSE but before I sold them I compared them to my new higher-density 2133MHz kit with 9-11-10 timings. The 2133MHz kit barely outperforms the 1600MHz kit and if I drop the sheer clock by about 133MHz on the 2133MHz kit the performance is basically the same as the 1600MHz kit. It's not as simple as more MHz = lower latency + higher bandwidth.
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post #36 of 39
BUY MOAR DDR3 NAO!!!!!
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Thread Starter 
Hi,

Quote:
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Are you serious? The problem floods are all in Thailand doh.gif

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Thanks for the correction ... my Bad ... completely my fault! The floods happened in Thailand of course.


Regards.
    
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post #38 of 39
And here comes RAM prices back up. Which really the industry has needed, RAM is so super cheap now.
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I highly doubt that RAM prices are getting significantly higher in the foreseeable future. considering the new more efficent processes implemented i would not be surprised if there is still some room for price drops over the time. That is until DDR4 is released and significant enough portion of manufacturrs switch over doing these cutting the ddr3 supply down.
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