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Hi guys,

I'm building a new computer, and I need a bit of advice. I originally planned to get a nice GTX 590 card for my computer, but recently, NVIDIA disconintued them and stores across the globe are dropping them from their website slowly. So now I am considering other options. I was wondering which was better bang for the buck? The SLI GTX 570 or the GTX 580 3GB? I understand that the dual 570s match the 590 in terms of raw graphical performance, and they outperform the 580 by quite a lot, but I'm wondering if the extra $200 for the SLI setup is worth it? I've never messed with SLI before... And please don't tell me to go ATI, I'm die-hard NVIDIA, always will be biggrin.gif

Also, Logitech Z506 5.1 or Creative Labs Inspire T6160 5.1 speakers? I plan to go with onboard sound card following the advice of someone on an earlier thread. My budget for audio is only $100. Yes I know, I won't get anything mindblowing out of $100 for 5.1 but I'm not an audiophile, I just want to hear clear and awesome music and gameplay sounds erupting from them and feeling awesome as Commander Shepherd when ME3 rolls around. The Logitech set is $100, the Creative Labs set is only about $70. Has anyone owned these before? Which one should I pick?

Thanks,
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580, Logitech
not a fan of sli. can sli 580 when needed.
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Hi guys,
I'm building a new computer, and I need a bit of advice. I originally planned to get a nice GTX 590 card for my computer, but recently, NVIDIA disconintued them and stores across the globe are dropping them from their website slowly. So now I am considering other options. I was wondering which was better bang for the buck? The SLI GTX 570 or the GTX 580 3GB? I understand that the dual 570s match the 590 in terms of raw graphical performance, and they outperform the 580 by quite a lot, but I'm wondering if the extra $200 for the SLI setup is worth it? I've never messed with SLI before... And please don't tell me to go ATI, I'm die-hard NVIDIA, always will be biggrin.gif
Also, Logitech Z506 5.1 or Creative Labs Inspire T6160 5.1 speakers? I plan to go with onboard sound card following the advice of someone on an earlier thread. My budget for audio is only $100. Yes I know, I won't get anything mindblowing out of $100 for 5.1 but I'm not an audiophile, I just want to hear clear and awesome music and gameplay sounds erupting from them and feeling awesome as Commander Shepherd when ME3 rolls around. The Logitech set is $100, the Creative Labs set is only about $70. Has anyone owned these before? Which one should I pick?
Thanks,
Tony

That depends on what you want form your set up? what resolution are you going to use, what game's do you plan to play and at what settings would you like them to perform? No single card can max BF3 at this current time on a single monitor if that helps out some. As to if its worth it or not it depends on your budget and needs/wants. I think SLI is worth the money, but that's me. I found it easy as pie to set up and have had no issue's with any of the SLI set ups I've worked with.
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Trust me... go for the 3gb 580 any day of the week. You will notice a dramatic lack of vram with todays games (definitely bf3 if thats your game) quicker than you will notice a lack of gpu processing power with most modern cards. As a sidenote....here is a score of sli 570 when I had them, vs single 3gb 580, vs sli 580

SLI 570's 4.5ghz 2600k overclock (was with ram at 1333, but close enough)
286

Single 580 with 4.5ghz 2600k overclock (with ram at 1866, but that should affect score too much)
338

SLI 580's
417

SLI 580's with 915mhz overclock
402

Hopefully that gives you sort of an idea to how things scale. If I rememer right, a single 570 was around 6000 or so on 3dm11, could be wrong, may have been less.

Also, in the grand scheme of things, I would say that no, SLI 570's DO NOT outperform one 580 3gb at all. Yes, you get higher bench numbers, but I was sadly dissapointed the first day I used my SLI 570's and saw just how much I had to reduce settings to get them to not stutter due to lack of vram. If you want to run everything at ultra (which if youre going to spend upwards of 7 or 8 hundred + on video cards, you should expect it IMO) then your VRAM will get used up quick. Go for the 3gb card thumb.gif
Edited by guitarmageddon88 - 2/27/12 at 6:27pm
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Trust me... go for the 3gb 580 any day of the week. You will notice a dramatic lack of vram with todays games (definitely bf3 if thats your game) quicker than you will notice a lack of gpu processing power with most modern cards. As a sidenote....here is a score of sli 570 when I had them, vs single 3gb 580, vs sli 580
SLI 570's 4.5ghz 2600k overclock (was with ram at 1333, but close enough)

Single 580 with 4.5ghz 2600k overclock (with ram at 1866, but that should affect score too much)

SLI 580's

SLI 580's with 915mhz overclock

Hopefully that gives you sort of an idea to how things scale. If I rememer right, a single 570 was around 6000 or so on 3dm11, could be wrong, may have been less.

580 SLI drool.gif
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580 SLI drool.gif

Yes.... biggrin.gif I know it was expensive....but I tell you, I'm not buying new cards for a long time. And if I do...I'm keeping these lightning xtremes. They're practically collectors items now thumb.gif

Well let me change that....I will probably by the kepler versions of these cards, but that wont be for another year until those are released probably.
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Trust me... go for the 3gb 580 any day of the week. You will notice a dramatic lack of vram with todays games (definitely bf3 if thats your game) quicker than you will notice a lack of gpu processing power with most modern cards. As a sidenote....here is a score of sli 570 when I had them, vs single 3gb 580, vs sli 580
SLI 570's 4.5ghz 2600k overclock (was with ram at 1333, but close enough)
286
Single 580 with 4.5ghz 2600k overclock (with ram at 1866, but that should affect score too much)
338
SLI 580's
417
SLI 580's with 915mhz overclock
402
Hopefully that gives you sort of an idea to how things scale. If I rememer right, a single 570 was around 6000 or so on 3dm11, could be wrong, may have been less.
Also, in the grand scheme of things, I would say that no, SLI 570's DO NOT outperform one 580 3gb at all. Yes, you get higher bench numbers, but I was sadly dissapointed the first day I used my SLI 570's and saw just how much I had to reduce settings to get them to not stutter due to lack of vram. If you want to run everything at ultra (which if youre going to spend upwards of 7 or 8 hundred + on video cards, you should expect it IMO) then your VRAM will get used up quick. Go for the 3gb card thumb.gif

So just to make things clear. You think the ONE 3GB GTX580 card can outperform SLI 570s? The SLI cards total to about the same amount of VRAM as the single 580....

Also, anyone have more info on the Logitech vs Creative Labs speaker topic?
    
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Actually. my Overclocked HD 7950 can come well within the relm of GTX 580 SLI.
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I still love my SLI'd 570's thumbsupsmiley.png
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Unless you are playing on 3 monitors, 3GB will not help performance. Found a link comparing 580 1.5 vs 3GB. Im using 2 GTX 570s in SLI and they are excellent. Microstuttering, if you are worried, is more problematic with low-midrange cards. If you want 590 performance in a single card, however, you should get the HD 7970 which performs almost equally and is an amazing overclocker.
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