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post #1 of 19
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Hey Everyone,

Are there any laptops that have a good graphics card (like desktop ~Radeon HD 6770 performance) where you can swap the optical drive for a second battery? Basically looking for gaming performance and run-time here.

Thanks!
post #2 of 19
look into the AMD APU laptops, they have like 6670 like performance on many.
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What type of games are you playing? I just picked up an A6 3420 samsung laptop, it has played everything I've thrown at it. I run Batman Arkham Asylum on medium and default res and get 50+ fps average. My buddy said he ran The Witcher 2 on his A6 3400, I haven't seen it but he says its playable. An A8 has a better GPU too, so I bet that would be nice.

Overall I am increadibly impressed with my $399 laptop lol.

If you want real performance above that, you have to go with a GT540 with nvidia optimus. When I bought my laptop, you were looking minimum $700 for one of those and I'm thinking only marginally better performance. Anything higher your above $1k.
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post #4 of 19
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I'll have to look into the AMD APU laptops. I'm looking to build a gaming laptop for Diablo 3 and would like to run it at high (or at least medium) settings. I feel like I will at least need the nvidia 555 gt or some kind of discrete card at that level. I'm wondering though, if there is any laptop with a good video card that also has a second battery instead of optical drive to offset the extra power usage?
post #5 of 19
For a "gaming laptop" you need to have a good thousand dollar budget minimum. There's no ifs ands or buts about that one. The AMD laptops are nice, to an extent, but you can generally find a fairly nice 15" machine with a very powerful GPU within it's confines for around a thousand. Like this one: PowerPro R 11:36

That one comes with a second generation i5 @ 2.4GHz, 4GB ram, 15.6" 1080p matte screen, 500GB 7200RPM HDD, and a lovely GTX 570M.

If you're looking for anything at under $1000 for your budget, your performance takes an extremely sharp decline in all games. Granted, a GT 555m/6770m is probably the lowest you will want to go for in today's market. Anything lower than that and you'll start to suffer in games.

The 570m is a 768MB GTX 460 with double the Vram and it's clocks lowered. However, it doesn't mean you can't overclock it. wink.gif
     
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You can get nice affordable gaming laptops from Acer with decently impressive hardware. I know most people scowl at the name Acer, I did for years too and they were my most hated brand but they've turned their company around. Mine was 600 on newegg and has an AMD X3 phenom II, 4GB DDR3 memory and an AMD HD 5650 gpu and I'm playing Battlefield 3 on medium :O
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post #7 of 19
My Sager NP5170 almost meets your needs I think. The GT555M is pretty decent for what it is. I think it performs around a 260M. Also, because of Optimus I get about 4 hours battery life.


If you want desktop 6770 performance though, you'll have to look elsewhere. I still recommend Sager though: You get plenty of power, the best possible price for the components, and long warrenty, and great cooling solutions. The biggest problem is that there is something of a shortage because OEMs are trying to clear their inventory of Sandy Bridge to make way for Ivy.
post #8 of 19
Come back in 3 months. 600M and 7000M midrange-high end graphics cards should come out in April-May. You would need a portable generator to get desktop 6770 performance and over 3 hours of battery while gaming, period (or 2 batteries, hibernate to SSD and switch - takes 20 seconds). More realistically, you'd have to BIOS mod your laptop to get it to run at 6770 performance (probably with a 560M, definitely with a 570M or faster) so you're running at stock clocks on battery.

Consider: 560M has an ~75W TDP. If you want that performance, it'll be using at least 45W an hour, and the dual-core i5 will use another 20W. The fattest 9-cell 120W battery will die in a couple hours. Fast forward, 28nm die shrink, you're now getting 30%+ higher performance per watt, and Ivy Bridge will be even more power efficient than SB. So you'd be looking at perhaps 3-4 hours of battery life while gaming.

Regardless, you'll have to choose, either high-quality gaming performance, OR >4 hours battery life. You can have both in the same laptop, just not simultaneously. Right now, a 560M with Optimus (Only Toshiba and Alienware has 560M optimus models, IIRC) is what will get you both. A 560M without optimus will get you good gaming on AC, terrible gaming on battery, and maybe 3 hours of web-browsing battery. That 3 goes to 5 or 6 with an Optimus.

No consumer laptops take an optical-bay battery. Maybe you could ghetto-rig (the soldering and cutting type, not the zip-tie type frown.gif ) one to take a Thinkpad Ultrabay Battery.
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post #9 of 19
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Thanks jrbroad77!

Yeah, I couldn't find any laptops with a good (or even decent) graphics card that support a modular bay battery. I guess I'll just have to accept that putting pressure on the graphics card uses too much battery and I can't get both performance and long battery life haha.

What about the PowerPro R 11:36 with the GTX 570m that Imglidinhere suggested? It seems like a pretty good gaming laptop. Would the GTX 570m suck up tons of battery power even when it's not under load?

I guess I'm not in immediate need for a laptop so I could wait for the mid-high range mobile radeon 7000m and gtx 600m series chips to come out and then decide. Although the desktop radeon 7770 that just came out doesn't seem so great... hopefully they dont make the 7850m based off that.. hah.

I wonder if there will be more availability to optimus cards on the gtx 600m series. Also, if the gtx 660m performs at the power of the 670m with 30% less power draw, that would be pretty awesome. Well, only time will tell!

Thanks!
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Thanks jrbroad77!
Yeah, I couldn't find any laptops with a good (or even decent) graphics card that support a modular bay battery. I guess I'll just have to accept that putting pressure on the graphics card uses too much battery and I can't get both performance and long battery life haha.
What about the PowerPro R 11:36 with the GTX 570m that Imglidinhere suggested? It seems like a pretty good gaming laptop. Would the GTX 570m suck up tons of battery power even when it's not under load?
I guess I'm not in immediate need for a laptop so I could wait for the mid-high range mobile radeon 7000m and gtx 600m series chips to come out and then decide. Although the desktop radeon 7770 that just came out doesn't seem so great... hopefully they dont make the 7850m based off that.. hah.
I wonder if there will be more availability to optimus cards on the gtx 600m series. Also, if the gtx 660m performs at the power of the 670m with 30% less power draw, that would be pretty awesome. Well, only time will tell!
Thanks!

The 570M has 2D clocks of something around 50mhz. That's the only way you'll get maybe 3 hours of battery with it:( . The 7770 isn't really that bad. Consider that the 6870M was a desktop 6770, and the 7770 is a good amount faster with a lower TDP.

Anyways, I'd expect more powerful laptops with optimus in 600M series. I can't say 100% for sure. But, the Lenovo Ideapad Y580 is supposed to have a 660M and get 5 hours of battery.

Also, what's your budget like, and what screen size? There's probably a Toshiba Qosimo 17" with a 560M and Optimus for under $1500. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0053Y41GM . It says 4 hours battery on that site, but with power management features tweaked and an i7-quad + Intel graphics, it really should hit 6 hours (my guess, based on the huge 87Whr battery, typical power consumption around 12W). There's an i5 version for a little cheaper that has better battery life.
 
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