Originally Posted by trueg50
Yes, but the PC works, and works very reliably, and that is the only thing that matters.
What you failed to see was excellent modularity, good quality steel, and nicely fitted parts. If you want to see complete junk in the business realm, look at HP's "elite" workstation line. Their PSU's have 1 standard power connector, and a whopping 5 proprietary connectors! They also are cheaply assembled, resulting in lots of rattling, and they use very thin and cheaply assembled metals.
People love to bash Dell, but they make excellent computers. Also, you don't specify buying PCI-E ports, some include them, some do not, and you would have to contact dell to find out; or order a computer that includes the ports. When you are buying Dell you are also buying great support, next day replacement of parts, and most importantly their Optiplex 990 built today will have the EXACT same motherboard as the 990 that comes off the line 4 years from now which is extremely important. Sure you could build a PC with more PCI-E ports; but whats the point? When the company is loosing +$200 a day for the 2 weeks that parts are in the RMA process, you lose any advantage the DIY PC had.
Thanks for telling me how wrong I am. Except I'm not and here's why:
Yes, the PC works, but reliably? Hmm, maybe after installing a retail copy of Windows without all the crap on there that he didn't need or want.
I didn't see modularity. I know Dell have modular cases and such, but generally they do things like leaving out extra HDD bays because you didn't ask for them (for instance, once a Dell PC I come across had two HDD's in it. It had room for another three, but the metal part of the case to hold them wasn't there). As for nicely fitted parts? Yes, the CPU coolers that are almost welded on. The cable management (which I've seen on every Dell) cutting into cables and simply not actually "managed" at all. I've actually seen better looking innards inside an e-machines. I'm not kidding.
And I know you don't specifically buy PCI-Ex ports. But they do ask you if you want that expansion and if you do they give you a board with the ports soldered on, else if you don't you don't get a board with the expansion ports. They literally have the same board in different set ups.For instance, I ordered a Dell for a family member about two years ago (despite my pleading) It was a Core 2 Duo system with a 9400GT inside it. The CSA asked me if I wanted to upgrade to a dual card setup (yeah, 9400GT SLI, lawl) I said no, thinking nothing of it. The PC arrived and sure enough there was only ONE PCI-Ex slot, yet I could see the space on the board, and the pin holes for the PCI-Ex slot. If I wanted to, I could have soldered one on.
The point is people pay a premium for these PC's. They don't want to be locked into shopping with Dell for their upgrades.