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I feel trapped having an AMD based system... no place for me to upgrade frown.gif Lets hope they can pull something out of their hats sometime in the future or I'll be going back to intel.
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post #22 of 91
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I feel trapped having an AMD based system... no place for me to upgrade frown.gif Lets hope they can pull something out of their hats sometime in the future or I'll be going back to intel.

i am defo going back to intel when upgrade time rolls round again. i feel a little let down
    
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This is really a big achievement to launch the first 4Ghz processor, I am a bit worried about the stock cooler for these things though.
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I feel trapped having an AMD based system... no place for me to upgrade frown.gif Lets hope they can pull something out of their hats sometime in the future or I'll be going back to intel.
The FX-8120 and 8150 are upgrade options, so is Piledriver.
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Stepping changes take nine months
October -> November -> December (3 months)
January -> February -> March (3 months)
April -> May -> June (3 months)
By then AMD might as well not release B3 at all and just take the B3 design and evolve it into C2 or whatever Vishera's first stepping will be called
Also, this is the first consumer 4+GHz processor in the world...
Why does it have to take 9 months?
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I remember when 4ghz used to mean something...

lol yeah my max i7 920 overclock of 4.5ghz stable is now laughable by todays standards
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This is really a big achievement to launch the first 4Ghz processor, I am a bit worried about the stock cooler for these things though.
Quote:
Originally Posted by TrueForm View Post

I feel trapped having an AMD based system... no place for me to upgrade frown.gif Lets hope they can pull something out of their hats sometime in the future or I'll be going back to intel.
The FX-8120 and 8150 are upgrade options, so is Piledriver.
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Originally Posted by Seronx View Post

Stepping changes take nine months
October -> November -> December (3 months)
January -> February -> March (3 months)
April -> May -> June (3 months)
By then AMD might as well not release B3 at all and just take the B3 design and evolve it into C2 or whatever Vishera's first stepping will be called
Also, this is the first consumer 4+GHz processor in the world...
Why does it have to take 9 months?

Well, when mommy AMD CPU and daddy AMD CPU get together to make a brand new baby AMD CPU it takes 9 months for the baby to produced! And thus a new stepping is formed!
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lol yeah my max i7 920 overclock of 4.5ghz stable is now laughable by todays standards

Not in my book thumb.gif
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post #27 of 91
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Why does it have to take 9 months?

It isn't always nine months.

Phenom I B2 -> Phenom I B3 took 3-4 months
Phenom II C2 -> Phenom II C3 took 8-9 months
Phenom II C3 -> Phenom II E0 took 3-6 months

Bulldozer B2 -> B3 timeline says at least nine months
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post #28 of 91
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I remember when 4ghz used to mean something...

I remember when overclocking used to require you to do more than raise a multi and core voltage, but I digress.
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ok so it isnt a new stepping but could there be any tweaks within or is that the sole definition of stepping? I know what could be the case... This new highly overclocked factory 4170 could be better binned and overclock beyond 5ghz... It is a possibility because Im sure AMD's 32nm process has gotten better (GloFo actually)
    
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post #30 of 91
Sounds like AMD just jammed the multi up knowing it can easily handle it..
My 6100 runs 3.3 - 3.9 stock and I can get 4.9 without any extra volts or FSB push. Thats on all cores at once.

Also its a very cold CPU to start with, not like Intel's space heater chips. (My friends I2600k was pushing 80celius with stock cooler 35-45 on water not OC'd)

So they probably figured out it is completely stable under stock volts in that range, and likely still has over a 1ghz headroom with extra volting.
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