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Guy who wrote the article needs to learn that you put a space in between a numerical value and the unit.
4.2 Ghz, not 4.2Ghz
32 nm, not 32nm
It's not a law or anything and 32nm is quicker to read.
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Nice clock speed but the FX 4000 series is trash, even slower than AMD's top end Phenom II which is a joke.
It's not trash at all, it's a fully functioning CPU.
Good one
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Weird, FX-4170 = compare it to an i7-2700k. i3-2100 = oh no compare it to dual-cores, not to $120-150 CPUs. Hmmmmm... is it possible the FX-4170 is actually faster than an i3-2120 for people who use more than 2 threads? I'm talking overall multi-threaded performance, not gaming performance.
 
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SC2 is a pretty poor example. A 3.6Ghz FX processor is faster than your i5 760 in it.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/434?vs=191
Maybe use games like WoW in your future arguments.

A 1ghz disadvantage, far better power consumption, a CPU architecture which debuted in 2008, and my i5 is totally at stock. thumb.gif (Hint, there's no way a "3.6ghz FX" is beating my 760 in SC2.)

Oh, for proof otherwise, see below.
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With a 1ghz disadvantage. But nonetheless.

At stock. It beats my 760. By 2 frames. ...At 1024 x 768, medium settings. What's it do overclocked at real resolutions? What's it do against it's actual competition? The claim was that it outperformed "almost all the Intels except in rare situations" right?
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Then it is a GPU benchmark
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How is it a GPU benchmark when you're comparing different CPUs?
Running games at 640 x 480 on the lowest settings tells people nothing. It's a synthetic test. It's not a representation of real world performance. LAME and x264 encoding speeds tells you something, it actually gives you numbers related to real world applications. What real world performance does1024 x 768 resolution tell you?
I'm sure this is a GPU benchmark too rolleyes.gif
sc2_2560_1600.gif
civ5_2560_1600.gif

Thank you. wink.gif
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Weird, FX-4170 = compare it to an i7-2700k. i3-2100 = oh no compare it to dual-cores, not to $120-150 CPUs. Hmmmmm... is it possible the FX-4170 is actually faster than an i3-2120 for people who use more than 2 threads? I'm talking overall multi-threaded performance, not gaming performance.

Who's comparing it to the 2700k? I'm comparing it to an i5 760. lachen.gif
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A 1ghz disadvantage, far better power consumption, a CPU architecture which debuted in 2008, and my i5 is totally at stock. thumb.gif (Hint, there's no way a "3.6ghz FX" is beating my 760 in SC2.)

1- I would not call FX-8150 a "3.6GHz FX" because it has turbo boost of 4.2GHz

2- You are looking at one benchmark. If you look at this review you can see that i5 750 beats FX-4170 in majority of benchmarks
http://www.legionhardware.com/articles_pages/amd_fx_8150fx_8120fx_6100_and_fx_4170,6.html
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So, by your reasoning, the way Intel handled the Pentium 4 was also a good idea. Since Intel couldn't keep up clock for clock, it was a good idea to keep up with a terrible architecture and just push the clocks higher and higher, right? I guess if you're AMD, you have little choice, since you don't have so many resources, but..
OT: So, I guess this .. 4170.. it should now be on par with a Phenom 9950, eh?

Not in anyway, shape or form. The P4 was a festering turd.

And Intel got it right later on. I can only wish AMD gets back on their feet after this Bulldozer fiasco comes to rest. AMD has a smaller budget, it's absolutely no surprise they can't keep up. But if they can't do anything to the architecture, raising the stock clocks is the last effort to squeeze some performance out. At least till Piledriver. And a first generation Phenom is an embarrassment. FX IS faster, but it's nothing to write home about.
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I remember when 4ghz used to mean something...

Yeah..

I was so proud when I hit 24/7 stable 4GHz on my E6750 G0 and P5Q Pro (500MHz FSB x8) back in 2008.. (Vcore= 1.45V) tongue.gif

Now I have 2500K and I haven't even tried to go for 5GHz, it's not cool anymore (waiting on Ivy Bridge and 6GHz biggrin.gif )


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That's humiliating, for AMD that is... I suspect the power consumption is off the charts as well.
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I really don't understand companies who keep trying to flog off an inferior product.

Just save yourself the hassle and public humiliation, accept that your product (in this case the BD architecture) has been a failure and turn your efforts and R&D dollars towards your next project.

Especially when your main competitor has an absurdly higher market share than you (legitimately or otherwise), surely it makes more sense to focus the money on catching up and making sure that Piledriver is a significant improvement both performance and power consumption wise?

That's exactly what AMD need to do to be competitive again imo. Just look at what Intel managed to do with the Core2 architecture after AMD was smashing them performance wise for years. It only took one new architecture and for the last 6 years(?) since Core2, Intel have held the performance crown without any competition. AMD haven't even come close.

I mean, AMD don't even hold the price : performance crown anymore either. That award goes to the 2500k (arguably, but lets be honest, the 2500k is amazing value).

So AMD need to stop putting out more BD chips and just focus on getting Piledriver right the first time. Why divert resources away from Piledriver to release more BD chips which have been battered to hell and back for being inferior and a real let down.

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We need more people to give testimonies of how they switched from an AMD CPU to an Intel CPU, because everyone says the same thing...

Wow, I didn't realize how much faster Intel CPUs are...



@ the above poster.... (Vengeance47)

You are absolutely 100% on the mark, the i5-2500k has the best value of all the CPUs (if you are overclocking it) if not then the i5-2400 has a lot of value at $150! (@ Microcenter)

+Rep, no you were not ranting, you were just telling the truth!
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So we are just talking and talking and there is no real benchmarks yet? thumb.gif
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