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Where are you getting these arguments from confused.gif
So far I have only seen one electric car that I would buy, unfortunately I can't remember the name of it but it's basically a super car with small gas motor that is used to generate most of the electricity to give a range of 1000+ miles on 1 tank/charge, while at the same time has the same power output as a high-end Ferrari or Lamborghini.
Apart from that 1 car that I am thinking of (which is still a proper electric car, it just gets its power from a small gas engine rather than a power station) my argument for these alternative fuel cars is the range they get. 100 miles on one 7 hour charge? What happens if you live 51 miles away from where you work?

http://www.fiskerautomotive.com/en-us/karma/features/performance

Thats the one I would buy smile.gif as reviewed on top gear by James May and the AC/DC frontman!
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http://www.fiskerautomotive.com/en-us/karma/features/performance
Thats the one I would buy smile.gif as reviewed on top gear by James May and the AC/DC frontman!

That's the one I was thinking of biggrin.gif
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Look we can't rely only on gasoline since the prices keep rising these past few days. Those oil tycoons think everything is under control, but the world shows a bleak outlook for oil prices anyway due to instability in the Middle East and consumption of oil increases. Alternative sources need to be developed ASAP. Otherwise, you'll be seeing food prices increasing and people buying less of just about everything. That thorium powered car by Cadillac was nice, but rare earth materials are hard to get. It's becoming more of the 'haves' and 'have nots' lately.
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Ill rephrase my previous statement.

Until there is no descernable difference (speed, range, time to refuel, etc) between electric and gas powered cars.....electric cars will never be anything more than a conversation peice for environmentalists with disposable income.

Case in point:

Honda Civic Sedan - Base Model MSRP 15-16,000 (up to 41 mpg, btw)

Chevy Volt Sedan - Base Model MSRP 31,000

Buying electric/hybrid does not save money....therefore it must be about the environment....And unless you have disposable income, in the current economy, i could care less about the environment
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I am sorry that you mistake realistic evaluation based on life experience for cynicism. If you think that somehow people having a few more sheckles in their pockets than the "Average Joe" somehow makes them more honest, you have a whole lot of catching up to do. By that Pollyanic measure the Trillionaire criminals who run the fraudulent worldwide banking system would be "Ghandiesque".

yep. that is EXACTLY what i meant. have fun thumbsupsmiley.png
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0-60 in 6.2 is nothing in terms of what electric motors are capable of... you do realize that the Tesla Roadster in question does that in 3.7-3.9 seconds, right?
And your point is?
    
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Oh yes, electricity is soooo much cleaner. That coal burning at the factory is really clean. The materials used to make 1000 lbs of battery, is very environmentally friendly!

Gasoline will be here for many years. The refineries will advance, the actual gasoline may chemically change, we may even switch to diesel. But either way oil-based fuel is advancing just as fast as electric. Turbodiesel Jetta's can get up to 50mpg highway.
    
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Oh yes, electricity is soooo much cleaner. That coal burning at the factory is really clean. The materials used to make 1000 lbs of battery, is very environmentally friendly!

The concept of electric vehicles have several benefits without even going into anything about whether it's environmentally friendly or not, such as fuel price and lower maintenance.
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Ill rephrase my previous statement.
Until there is no descernable difference (speed, range, time to refuel, etc) between electric and gas powered cars.....electric cars will never be anything more than a conversation peice for environmentalists with disposable income.
Case in point:
Honda Civic Sedan - Base Model MSRP 15-16,000 (up to 41 mpg, btw)
Chevy Volt Sedan - Base Model MSRP 31,000
Buying electric/hybrid does not save money....therefore it must be about the environment....And unless you have disposable income, in the current economy, i could care less about the environment

...you DO realize that a hybrid is going to be more expensive than a pure EV, right? It's just like how a GTX 590 will cost more than a GTX 580 due to having two "engines" rather than one.
 
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The concept of electric vehicles have several benefits without even going into anything about whether it's environmentally friendly or not, such as fuel price and lower maintenance.
  • Lower fuel cost, yes. MUCH higher initial cost though.Cancels out.
  • Though the amount of maintenance will be less, this article proves the price of maintenance is higher. And DIY would be impossible.
  • Slower/heavier
  • horrible range
  • harder to "refill"
  • not yet reliable
  • won't have a used market

Yes some of those on the list will be fixed with development, but #2,3, some of 5, and 7, probably not.
    
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