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Did MEMTest before doing anything else and it froze the system a few times.

Then installed Win 7 Home Premium. Updated BIOS, freezes don't happen nearly that often. Figured the issue is in the settings someplace.

Okay now here is where it gets sketchy imho. W/O stessing it in any way it runs @ 1.7Ghz which is stock. I put F@H v7 on it to burn in the TIM of the CPU and stress the CPU at the same time. Even on the stock kooler, I don't believe that it should hit 65c. But at 100% load, it ramps up the heat to 60c in no time at all. Takes but a few minutes and then the system warns me that it's too hot. Hur Duuuur, Probe II tells me that much on its own. So I immediately shut down the Client project and it comes right back to a 30c average.

So the CPU seems to be borked. The coating on the top before it was ever installed on this ASUS M4A99X EVO mainboard looked odd but it was fair looking, if you understand my meaning. The stock kooler is the same as the 955 and above get and I'm running the stock kooler on both my sig and my bro's 965 setup. So it's not the kooler cause they're both Folding at 100%. My sig rig Folds 24/7 even. This 8120 should run about 45c max temp even Folding shouldn't it?

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Case is a 922 with 2x200s' and 140.

RAM shouldn't cause the CPU to overheat. Mainboard shouldn't cause this either. Graphics card maybe, but I'm not Folding on them so there isn't an increase in heat directly below the CPU, and even if it did the GPU has a 90/100mm fan and aluminum HeatSink to keep things cool.

So is anyone else having a heat bug? Did you submit RMA or did you find a fix for it. As I said the BIOS has been updated and the CPU was installed correctly. I doubt it's the kooler. But I do have some G751 so I may try removing the stock paste and reseating the kooler to see if that fixes the issues. mellowsmiley.gif

Anyone have any ideas? thinking.gif

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I'm pretty sure the stock cooler isn't enough. I was running the stock cooler on my 8150 at stock settings for the last 4 days and just AMD GPU folding was giving my average idle temps of 35 and just playing TF2 for a few hours, temps had managed to climb to a max of 52 according to CoreTemp.

So I'm pretty sure under full load I would have probably exceeded 65 C as well.



I would say the CPU and your components are fine, just the cooler can't handle it, that's just my opinion though.
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Yeah, no I don't think so homie. These coolers aren't the greatest no, but they're in use on Thubans as well. I doubt AMD would neglect their CPUs' running under full load like that. You could be correct, I'm just having a hard time believing a CPU that runs cooler than my 955 at Idle would run 65c under load if there wasn't an issue to begin with. mellowsmiley.gif

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Not sure, if I hadn't just set up my WC loop last night on my 8150, I would slap a AMD stock cooler back on and stress for you. But getting 50+ C just in TF2 at stock 3.6 GHz is a lot to me, which is pretty much in line with your results if they were extrapolated.

Unless we both had bad TIM installs or seating of the heat sink, can't ignore that possibility. Seems most people end up putting a after market cooler on anyway since they want to overclock and know how hot it can get.



Just re-read your first post, your question regarding if it should only be at 45 while folding, well I was hitting 48 on just GPU folding which stresses only 1 thread clocked a little higher then your CPU (which I'm assuming is stock).
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Yeah, no I don't think so homie. These coolers aren't the greatest no, but they're in use on Thubans as well. I doubt AMD would neglect their CPUs' running under full load like that. You could be correct, I'm just having a hard time believing a CPU that runs cooler than my 955 at Idle would run 65c under load if there wasn't an issue to begin with. mellowsmiley.gif
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I know on my 8120, the heat spreader on the cpu was far from flat.. it even had a couple small burrs in the surface. I never tried running the stock cooler (started with an H50, then to a NH-D14) but they do run warm @ stock under full load. If you haven't already, i'd double check the TIM and make sure it's got a good coverage. I spent days reading through various threads here to try and figure out how to get my system stable, until the day my CHV died on me. That's when I gave up and picked up my current sig cpu and mobo (yes, i still feel like a traitor as EVERY system in the last 12yrs that I've built has been AMD.)

Needless to say, I would try a better cooler, even the Hyper 212 would be a big difference
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Checked the stock TIM and it had completely covered the top of the CPU. I probably should have checked the Copper plate to see if if was flat, but it looks flat enough so I just replaced the TIM with the last of my G751. Looks like I need to order more. tongue.gif

Ran the Heaven 2.5 benchmark before checking and it got the CPU up to at least 42c before I checked temp. It probably got a couple degrees higher so hopefully replacing the stock paste with G751 will make enough of a difference. Doubtful, but anything is possible. I just don't like the look of the top of the CPU. It looks like the coating bubbled when it was applied. If this continues, I'll probably RMA it. It's supposed to get hot but I just don't think that it should even step into the 60c range under full load.

I downloaded CPUID's reviewer kit and that TMonitor is awesome. Fire up F@H and watch the monitor. The CPU actually gets a higher Clock Speed under full load while running @ Idle it halves the Clock Speed. thumb.gif

*update* The TIM change didn't really do anything other than slow down the speed the CPU got hot. Still got unbearably hot but it did it at a slower rate. mellowsmiley.gif

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After much head to desk crunching tired-sleeping-smiley-4634.gif, I have decided to RMA this CPU and am in RMA process with AMD. Will update when I know more; as in new CPU and cooler and 2nd attempt. I just don't believe these CPUs' should hit 60c + even Folding. hmmsmiley02.gif

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Hur Duuuur, Probe II tells me that much on its own. So I immediately shut down the Client project and it comes right back to a 30c average.

WTH? The point of stressing the system is to find out about any issues before you hand the brand new system over to the client. So that way, they don't come back steamed that their new system is bricked because you didn't make sure it was running smoothly before you gave it to them. If you don't have anything constructive to add to the conversation how about you keep it to yourself. hmmsmiley02.gif

Also how about you keep the embedded links out of OCN. rolleyes.gif

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Good luck with the RMA process. Also do you still plan to keep using the stock cooler?
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Probably unless I can find a reasonably decent used cooler for cheap. We've pretty much hit the limit of her budget at the moment so there isn't a whole lot left to work with.

Got confirmation that AMD is going to honor the warranty. So this week I'll be packing up the CPU and sending it in. thumb.gif

Figure I'll keep the stock cooler around for those JIC instances though. Either that or may sell it to offset the cost of a better unit. I ordered some more Shin-Etsu last week so I could keep this one and sell the other one too. I really have no idea what I'm going to do with it yet though.

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