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post #1131 of 2186
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Originally Posted by amang View Post

WC is the way to go for this rig. Post more pics when you're ready. wink.gif
Can't wait to see your complete stats with the turbo on. What clock speed is it when the turbo is on?

I noticed my folder tends to take a long time to resume after finishing a unit. Do you guys have any idea why? Does your rig also behave the same? Have a look at the log below. I mean, does it have to take more than an hour to shut down the core? headscratch.gifSee screenshot here (Click to show)
Screenshotfrom2013-05-26225004.png

What is your next-unit-percentage set to?

In my config I have
Code:
<next-unit-percentage v='99'/>

That way it fetches a new WU while mine finishes the last frame. Mine only has ~1min of down-time between units. I'll see If I can grab a screen shot when it finishes one today. Maybe that'll help expedite yours? Seems very strange though that it's taking that long to shut down your core after one finishes.
post #1132 of 2186
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Originally Posted by Chooofoojoo View Post

theKraken took just under 1 min off my TPFs on my 6386SE's. Should do similar for yours E5 system.


Bummin how my system handles 8101s. 9:45 TPF ~560K PPD.

Worth it to throw money at the wind and get some 1600 CL7 ram? If I do that I'll need to put her under water too, as the memory i'm looking at has heat spreaders that will interfere with the 212evo's. rolleyes.gif Oh ya.. and If I do all that i'm going to have to get rid of that nice cardboard box it's sitting on too. lachen.gif

I don't think the SM bios can handle XMP profiles (which you need for that CL7) and you cannot change timings manually.
If you were running 6100-series, you can take advantage of the XMP profiles thanks to the [H] OC bios, but 1600 CL7 will probably be to tight for the IMC to handle.

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Originally Posted by scubadiver59 View Post

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Originally Posted by Hukkel View Post

That is going to be a million PPD machine. Awesomesauce. thumb.gif
Does this only work for Linux or does it also up PPD for people running V7 in Windows?

As far as "I" know, It's solely for the legacy Linux clients. It helps take advantage of the multi-processor systems.

The one thing I'm not too sure of is whether it's just for the legacy (6.34) clients or if it also works for the v7 clients? v7 may have it's own wrapper, but again, I'm not too sure.

Someone else with more knowledge will have to chime in here...

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Originally Posted by scubadiver59 View Post

I stayed with 6.34 once again...gotta love the CLI !!!

Stuck at 5:18 TPF for 936.7k PPD...8:55 total processing time for this 8104.

Somehow I'm not sure I'm going to go back to the AMD chips unless I source some high-end 6100s or 6300s for serious OC...these 4650s are sweet!!! thumb.gif

There is nothing to stop you from running CLI with v7 either...and with it you can actually get a up/download decoupler that works.

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Originally Posted by amang View Post

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Originally Posted by Chooofoojoo View Post

need better cooling. My 212s can hang with 3.2, but not much more. Especially with the summer heat rolling in. Water is on its way soon. Next few weeks hopefully. Faster ram soonthereafter.
WC is the way to go for this rig. Post more pics when you're ready. wink.gif
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Originally Posted by scubadiver59 View Post

Okay, turbo is on...and I'm folding an 8101 (R13, C1, G247).
Can't wait to see your complete stats with the turbo on. What clock speed is it when the turbo is on?

I noticed my folder tends to take a long time to resume after finishing a unit. Do you guys have any idea why? Does your rig also behave the same? Have a look at the log below. I mean, does it have to take more than an hour to shut down the core? headscratch.gifSee screenshot here (Click to show)
Screenshotfrom2013-05-26225004.png

Are you by any chance running EXT4 and a mech hard drive? If so, that the reason it takes ~1h to write the completed unit on completion. EXT3 does not have this problem and SSD are not affected at all (you'd want EXT4 on those anyway since it have SSD friendly features). Also this pretty much only applies to BA.

I've been meaning to try JFS as I've read that it's supposed to be good for folding.

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Originally Posted by Chooofoojoo View Post


What is your next-unit-percentage set to?

In my config I have
Code:
<next-unit-percentage v='99'/>

That way it fetches a new WU while mine finishes the last frame. Mine only has ~1min of down-time between units. I'll see If I can grab a screen shot when it finishes one today. Maybe that'll help expedite yours? Seems very strange though that it's taking that long to shut down your core after one finishes.

Probably not the problem he's having, though I would set that percentage at 100, you'll loose bonus points by letting it sit there (from the 99th percent is started until you reach 100%). At least for me it does more sense in having it download at 100%. I believe that the default is something like 96-98%, it was 98 in the previous v7 I was running (7.2.9)


amang, scuba and Chooo, do have any power readings for your rigs? I'd love some comparison with my old 6190BE's.
Edited by arvidab - 5/26/13 at 8:08am
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post #1133 of 2186
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Originally Posted by arvidab View Post

I don't think the SM bios can handle XMP profiles (which you need for that CL7) and you cannot change timings manually.
If you were running 6100-series, you can take advantage of the XMP profiles thanks to the [H] OC bios, but 1600 CL7 will probably be to tight for the IMC to handle.

amang, scuba and Chooo, do have any power readings for your rigs? I'd love some comparison with my old 6190BE's.

+rep. On the ram. Eventually I'll know a 10th of what you know about these rigs!

I'm getting a UPS for mine when my Spotswood Tray shows. I'll have wattage numbers then. I have surprisingly been able to do without a kill-a-watt for a pretty long time! haha
post #1134 of 2186
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Originally Posted by amang View Post

Can't wait to see your complete stats with the turbo on. What clock speed is it when the turbo is on?
Warning: Stats! (Click to show)
3.0GHz w/Turbo on. There's no overclocking available, just the Turbo such that it is.

4P E5-4650's (3.0GHz & Kraken):
Code:
P8101 (R13, C1, G247) - TPF 9:16 - 599.1k PPD
P8102 TBD
P8103 (R0, C11, G85)  - TPF 7:15 - 888.9k PPD  ** Estimated @ 6%
P8104 TBD
P8105 TBD

4P 6176's (2.7GHz & Kraken):
Code:
P8101 (R2, C1, G241)  - TPF 11:42 - 433.6k PPD
P8102 (R0, C37, G252) - TPF 08:25 - 710.3k PPD
P8103 (R1, C40, G89)  - TPF 08:31 - 697.9k PPD 
P8104 (R0, C51, G52)  - TPF 06:30 - 692.1k PPD 
P8105 (R0, C32, G35)  - TPF 08:29 - 685.8k PPD
The 8104s and 8102s appear to be the best chance for me to break that 1m PPD mark; hopefully the next 8104 or 8102 I get will be over 1m PPD...but only time will tell. I'm also not sure I have all the settings right in my BIOS and may have to play with one or two settings.

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Originally Posted by amang View Post

I noticed my folder tends to take a long time to resume after finishing a unit. Do you guys have any idea why? Does your rig also behave the same? Have a look at the log below. I mean, does it have to take more than an hour to shut down the core? headscratch.gif

Both of my 4P rigs take some time to restart their next WUs. Don't know if it's the "big" downloads that I pull, or what...but it doesn't affect the PPD as far as I know.
Edited by scubadiver59 - 5/26/13 at 9:08am
   
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amang, scuba and Chooo, do have any power readings for your rigs? I'd love some comparison with my old 6190BE's.

No Kill-A-Watt yet, but I guess I should get one just to see how much these two rigs are costing me! redface.gif
   
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Originally Posted by amang View Post

I noticed my folder tends to take a long time to resume after finishing a unit. Do you guys have any idea why? Does your rig also behave the same? Have a look at the log below. I mean, does it have to take more than an hour to shut down the core? headscratch.gif

Both of my 4P rigs take some time to restart their next WUs. Don't know if it's the "big" downloads that I pull, or what...but it doesn't affect the PPD as far as I know.

Read my answer in my previous post (filesystem), if this is the same that you are seeing it's definitely affecting your PPD as the bonus points are calculated from when you begin to download until your upload is complete. Unless it's something to do with your up/downlink speeds, then there isn't much you can do.

I would recommend anyone that is running v7 to set the next-unit... as such (unless you have the slowest internet on the planet):
Code:
<next-unit-percentage v='100'/>

Try it at least to see if it's raising you effective PPD. Fairly simple to calculate too.
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Read my answer in my previous post (filesystem), if this is the same that you are seeing it's definitely affecting your PPD as the bonus points are calculated from when you begin to download until your upload is complete. Unless it's something to do with your up/downlink speeds, then there isn't much you can do.

I would recommend anyone that is running v7 to set the next-unit... as such (unless you have the slowest internet on the planet):
Code:
<next-unit-percentage v='100'/>

Try it at least to see if it's raising you effective PPD. Fairly simple to calculate too.

Where do you set that in 6.34?

NVM...only in v7...but I don't think that 6.34 downloads until work is complete; of course...I could be wrong. but my delay isn't really as bad as the others are experiencing anyway.
Edited by scubadiver59 - 5/26/13 at 9:09am
   
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Read my answer in my previous post (filesystem), if this is the same that you are seeing it's definitely affecting your PPD as the bonus points are calculated from when you begin to download until your upload is complete. Unless it's something to do with your up/downlink speeds, then there isn't much you can do.

I would recommend anyone that is running v7 to set the next-unit... as such (unless you have the slowest internet on the planet):
Code:
<next-unit-percentage v='100'/>

Try it at least to see if it's raising you effective PPD. Fairly simple to calculate too.

Where do you set that in 6.34?

NVM...only in v7...but I don't think that 6.34 downloads until work is complete; of course...I could be wrong. but my delay isn't really as bad as the others are experiencing anyway.

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No it doesn't, but you need to wait until your upload is complete for it to start fetching another work (unless you run the half-broken langouste).

Well, are you running a mechanical drive and EXT4? If so I would strongly recommend you to reinstall with EXT3.
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Checked my Log here at work. ~3 min from completion to commencing the next WU. Check my log:
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Code:
01:09:29:WU01:FS00:0xa5:Completed 247500 out of 250000 steps  (99%)
01:19:37:WU01:FS00:0xa5:Completed 250000 out of 250000 steps  (100%)
01:19:48:WU01:FS00:0xa5:DynamicWrapper: Finished Work Unit: sleep=10000
01:19:58:WU01:FS00:0xa5:
01:19:58:WU01:FS00:0xa5:Finished Work Unit:
01:19:58:WU01:FS00:0xa5:- Reading up to 64340496 from "01/wudata_01.trr": Read 64340496
01:19:59:WU01:FS00:0xa5:trr file hash check passed.
01:19:59:WU01:FS00:0xa5:- Reading up to 31555848 from "01/wudata_01.xtc": Read 31555848
01:19:59:WU01:FS00:0xa5:xtc file hash check passed.
01:19:59:WU01:FS00:0xa5:edr file hash check passed.
01:19:59:WU01:FS00:0xa5:logfile size: 191068
01:19:59:WU01:FS00:0xa5:Leaving Run
01:20:00:WU01:FS00:0xa5:- Writing 96248288 bytes of core data to disk...
01:20:21:WU01:FS00:0xa5:Done: 96247776 -> 91525590 (compressed to 5.8 percent)
01:20:21:WU01:FS00:0xa5:  ... Done.
01:21:56:WU01:FS00:0xa5:- Shutting down core
01:21:56:WU01:FS00:0xa5:
01:21:56:WU01:FS00:0xa5:Folding@home Core Shutdown: FINISHED_UNIT
01:22:07:WU01:FS00:FahCore returned: FINISHED_UNIT (100 = 0x64)
01:22:07:WU01:FS00:Sending unit results: id:01 state:SEND error:NO_ERROR project:8101 run:9 clone:5 gen:235 core:0xa5 unit:0x0000012e088988e14f296c3a6e240e85
01:22:07:WU01:FS00:Uploading 87.29MiB to 128.143.231.201
01:22:07:WU01:FS00:Connecting to 128.143.231.201:8080
01:22:07:WU00:FS00:Starting
01:22:07:WU00:FS00:Running FahCore: /home/nick/fahv7/v7/FAHCoreWrapper /home/nick/cores/www.stanford.edu/~pande/Linux/AMD64/beta/Core_a5.fah/FahCore_a5 -dir 00 -suffix 01 -version 703 -lifeline 2634 -checkpoint 15 -np 64
01:22:07:WU00:FS00:Started FahCore on PID 28258
01:22:07:Started thread 23 on PID 2634
01:22:07:WU00:FS00:Core PID:28262
01:22:07:WU00:FS00:FahCore 0xa5 started
01:22:08:WU00:FS00:0xa5:
01:22:08:WU00:FS00:0xa5:*------------------------------*
01:22:08:WU00:FS00:0xa5:Folding@Home Gromacs SMP Core
01:22:08:WU00:FS00:0xa5:Version 2.27 (Thu Feb 10 09:46:40 PST 2011)
01:22:08:WU00:FS00:0xa5:
01:22:08:WU00:FS00:0xa5:Preparing to commence simulation
01:22:08:WU00:FS00:0xa5:- Looking at optimizations...
01:22:08:WU00:FS00:0xa5:- Created dyn
01:22:08:WU00:FS00:0xa5:- Files status OK
01:22:10:WU00:FS00:0xa5:- Expanded 30307404 -> 33158020 (decompressed 109.4 percent)
01:22:10:WU00:FS00:0xa5:Called DecompressByteArray: compressed_data_size=30307404 data_size=33158020, decompressed_data_size=33158020 diff=0
01:22:10:WU00:FS00:0xa5:- Digital signature verified
01:22:10:WU00:FS00:0xa5:
01:22:10:WU00:FS00:0xa5:Project: 8101 (Run 8, Clone 9, Gen 231)
01:22:10:WU00:FS00:0xa5:
01:22:10:WU00:FS00:0xa5:Assembly optimizations on if available.
01:22:10:WU00:FS00:0xa5:Entering M.D.
01:22:13:WU01:FS00:Upload 3.15%
01:22:17:WU00:FS00:0xa5:Mapping NT from 64 to 64 
01:22:19:WU01:FS00:Upload 7.73%
01:22:22:WU00:FS00:0xa5:Completed 0 out of 250000 steps  (0%)
01:22:25:WU01:FS00:Upload 11.38%
Reading file ./work/00/wudata_01.tpr, VERSION 4.5.5-dev-20120903-d64b9e3 (single precision)
Reading file ./work/00/wudata_01.tpr, VERSION 4.5.5-dev-20120903-d64b9e3 (single precision)
01:22:31:WU01:FS00:Upload 15.18%
01:22:37:WU01:FS00:Upload 19.12%
01:22:43:WU01:FS00:Upload 23.06%
01:22:49:WU01:FS00:Upload 25.85%
01:22:55:WU01:FS00:Upload 28.57%
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01:23:08:WU01:FS00:Upload 33.73%
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01:23:20:WU01:FS00:Upload 39.60%
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01:23:44:WU01:FS00:Upload 50.41%
01:23:50:WU01:FS00:Upload 53.13%
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01:24:03:WU01:FS00:Upload 59.07%
01:24:10:WU01:FS00:Upload 61.87%
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01:24:28:WU01:FS00:Upload 69.81%
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01:24:41:WU01:FS00:Upload 75.69%
01:24:47:WU01:FS00:Upload 78.41%
01:24:54:WU01:FS00:Upload 81.34%
01:25:00:WU01:FS00:Upload 84.21%
01:25:06:WU01:FS00:Upload 87.07%
01:25:12:WU01:FS00:Upload 89.22%
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01:25:24:WU01:FS00:Upload 94.80%
01:25:30:WU01:FS00:Upload 97.67%
01:25:48:WU01:FS00:Upload complete
01:25:48:WU01:FS00:Server responded WORK_ACK (400)
01:25:48:WU01:FS00:Final credit estimate, 376336.00 points
01:25:48:WU01:FS00:Cleaning up
01:32:06:WU00:FS00:0xa5:Completed 2500 out of 250000 steps  (1%)
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It's around these lines where you would see long times if you were running EXT4:
Code:
01:20:00:WU01:FS00:0xa5:- Writing 96248288 bytes of core data to disk...
01:20:21:WU01:FS00:0xa5:Done: 96247776 -> 91525590 (compressed to 5.8 percent)
01:20:21:WU01:FS00:0xa5:  ... Done.
01:21:56:WU01:FS00:0xa5:- Shutting down core
01:21:56:WU01:FS00:0xa5:

You're fine.
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