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Poll Results: Are graphics cards manufacturers doing enough to ensure both the quality of their products and the satisfaction of their customers?

 
  • 7% (5)
    Yes - completely
  • 29% (19)
    Yes - somewhat
  • 7% (5)
    Neutral - no opinion
  • 41% (27)
    No - improvements can be made
  • 13% (9)
    No - definitely not
65 Total Votes  
post #11 of 16
nVidia goes above and beyond their competitors to make ties with game developers and ensure the best performance, and always pump out beta drivers immediately for most big releases. Nothing can ever be a home run every swing, so not everybody will always walk away enamored. However the question isn't whether you are satisfied, it's whether the company does enough to try to make satisfied customers. In my eyes, nVidia gets a resounding yes.
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So far as treating customers like guinea pigs, seems like they don't have much of a choice considering the nature of consumer PC systems. I give them some credit for testing them out on the people who can afford to be guinea pigs by releasing their boutique luxury cards first. Then when their realistic products hit the market, normal customers don't have quite the same hassle.

Graphics cards seem to be one of the few consumer technologies that just get more expensive as the technology improves, rather than offering better performance at similar or lower prices. When I bought my 4850 years ago, it was the third best chipset ATI made, and it was like $180.

My primary concern is that they are pricing PC gaming right out of existence. They're in a lucky phase right now; there's been a resurgence because we're at the tail end of the console generation, but that isn't going to last.
    
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And I don't think government or consumer advocacy groups will, or should get too involved. Generally that is reserved for basic-needs goods, or products that involve health and safety issues. The government probably isn't going to set up committees to investigate stuttering frames in Batman.
    
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Originally Posted by Otterclock View Post

And I don't think government or consumer advocacy groups will, or should get too involved. Generally that is reserved for basic-needs goods, or products that involve health and safety issues. The government probably isn't going to set up committees to investigate stuttering frames in Batman.


That's understating it somewhat. Those methods are extreme but can help in the worst-case scenarios where a situation exists that becomes untenable for the consumer. I can't think of many industries where an effective duopoly exists where some sort of watchdog hasn't been at the very minimum monitoring industry practices. I'm not saying that is needed right now, but there's not much point complaining if one isn't willing to do something about it.

 

Since the zillions of forums are littered with complaints, and we know that forum participation is the tip of the iceberg as far as overall sales are concerned, one could draw the conclusion that the practices in this industry need dramatic improvement.

 

Hence the reason for this poll. And 57 responses is, by any measure, extremely lackluster, and further evidence of consumer apathy in general.

 

 

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Since the zillions of forums are littered with complaints, and we know that forum participation is the tip of the iceberg as far as overall sales are concerned, one could draw the conclusion that the practices in this industry need dramatic improvement.

I don't disagree, but when those complaints are typed up on rigs sporting $600 graphics cards, one may suspect just how untenable they really find the situation.
    
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