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The only people I know who use Mac products are people who were conned into spending money in iTunes. Now they are screwed spending hundreds upon hundreds of $$$ more just to make use of their small music collection.
    
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Seriously they don't already support 1080p?
    
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Seriously they don't already support 1080p?

Nope tongue.gif 1080p is going to be Apples new innovation this year.
    
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Nope tongue.gif 1080p is going to be Apples new innovation this year.

I can't wait for all the Apple fanbois to start talking about how 1080p didn't exist before Apple innovated it.

Mac fanboi: "sure there was 1080p before, but it wasn't implemented in a stylish hipster format and was only important after apple put it in a shinny aluminum case"
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LOL your serious? I take it you think it's just too hard to go out and buy a long HDMI cable for like 20$ online.
It's funny you say the average user doesn't have a computer near their tv (be it a HTPC or a PC in the living room), then you go on about jail-breaking it to get the same functionality a windows PC would give you. Your average non-OCN user doesn't jailbreak their products either, plus with a Windows PC as your media center you get full functionality already built into it.
Furthermore, anyone with a PS3 or 360 can already stream pretty much any format you want to your tv with programs like PS3 media streamer.
Face it, Apple TV is nothing but a platform extension of iTunes. It's optimized for iTunes content and NOTHING else.
It's not, but I don't want an HDMI cable running through my house permanently, nor do I want to get it out every time I want to use it. I'd rather just go to my TV and select my movie and start watching it.

It's not really jail breaking -- it's much easier. But it does give similar functionality.
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The downside is that you have to install iTunes, which is basically bloatware on any Windows PC (adds 3-4 background processes and nags you about updates)
Also the iPad 3 isn't paving anything but vertical black bars with that 4:3 aspect ratio.
I don't know about bloatware, but I'll definitely agree it needs some work. I don't like iTunes on Windows too much, I usually delete it lol tongue.gif

What do you mean? If you mirror the display to the Apple TV then you'll have black bars, but as soon as you open a supported app it renders at the ratio and resolution (up to 720p wirelessly, 1080p wired) of your HDTV.
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Seriously they don't already support 1080p?
No, the first generation Apple TV which ran Tiger and used an Intel processor didn't have a video decoder(?) chip powerful enough, although you could replace it later on with one that supports 1080p. The second generation Apple TV which runs iOS and uses the A4 isn't powerful enough to run 1080p but it does do 720p well. That aside, Apple doesn't actually sell 1080p content yet.
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Quad core is irrelevant. I have been streaming everything I own to my HDTV for years with just about any device. PS3. HTPC.
If you want to talk cheap, the WDTV boxes are $100 and they can play way more formats than an AppleTV can.

Edit: Where do you read quad core anyways?

9 times out of 10 you get the HDTV streaming box for free. And you're right; quad core has nothing to do with this. AMD's E350 can do this NP.

edit: For us Canadians anyways. We have suppliers that give you all 3 services and just give you the router, hdtv box, and a modem for free. Heck, now they have modems with wifi build in...awesome.
Edited by Domino - 2/29/12 at 6:03pm
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It's not, but I don't want an HDMI cable running through my house permanently, nor do I want to get it out every time I want to use it. I'd rather just go to my TV and select my movie and start watching it.
It's not really jail breaking -- it's much easier. But it does give similar functionality.

I have my computer in the same room as my TV probably 8 feet out of the way in a corner of my room with an HDMI cable permanently attached to it. When I want to watch tv I hit a hotkey to switch the tv to the second monitor. From there its a simple matter of selecting what I want to watch and putting it on. It's the simplest setup you could think of and I don't have to take out and put away an hdmi cable every time I want to watch tv.

Not only does a direct connection provide higher quality than streaming over wifi but I don't have to worry about not being able to play certain formats that Apple doesn't like.

In regards to whatever you called jailbreaking. It's still more haste than should be required to be able to play mkv's. Mkv's are a very popular format and many other set top boxes support the container format, there's no reason for apple not to include support for it.

But really what this Apple TV would be aimed at replacing in my home is my PS3 or Xbox that I already use to stream movies from my computer to tv's not close to my main computer. With PS3 Media Streamer I get the same full support of audio and video formats as my PC does.

Really the person I can see purchasing something like this is someone who has already invested a large amount of money into apples proprietary content and have no other option.
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1080p video? I have a patent for that.
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I have my computer in the same room as my TV probably 8 feet out of the way in a corner of my room with an HDMI cable permanently attached to it. When I want to watch tv I hit a hotkey to switch the tv to the second monitor. From there its a simple matter of selecting what I want to watch and putting it on. It's the simplest setup you could think of and I don't have to take out and put away an hdmi cable every time I want to watch tv.
Not only does a direct connection provide higher quality than streaming over wifi but I don't have to worry about not being able to play certain formats that Apple doesn't like.
In regards to whatever you called jailbreaking. It's still more haste than should be required to be able to play mkv's. Mkv's are a very popular format and many other set top boxes support the container format, there's no reason for apple not to include support for it.
But really what this Apple TV would be aimed at replacing in my home is my PS3 or Xbox that I already use to stream movies from my computer to tv's not close to my main computer. With PS3 Media Streamer I get the same full support of audio and video formats as my PC does.
Really the person I can see purchasing something like this is someone who has already invested a large amount of money into apples proprietary content and have no other option.
How does streaming over WiFi decrease quality? It just loads faster if you do it via HDMI -- but if you've got a decent router you shouldn't have to wait for it to load anyway.

I'm not sure why iTunes doesn't support mkv's, perhaps it isn't as power efficient as the other formats Apple supports. Remember that Apple sells a lot of iDevices and you use iTunes to sync them, so making sure that the formats available are power efficient is something I'd expect of Apple. That may explain why, I don't think there's any other reason why you'd not allow those formats in iTunes. The Apple TV may not be a mobile device, but it still streams what's in iTunes, and it still runs iOS.

It doesn't take long to install ATV Flash either. It's twenty minutes, and fifteen of that is just waiting for it to burn to a USB drive and install on the ATV, the other five is buying and downloading it. I've done it before on the first generation model and it works pretty well, albeit it was quite laggy due to the weak hardware.

This basically sums up the Apple TV: link

One of the useful things about it is that you can stream your previously bought music, TV shows, etc., and hopefully soon, movies too, but as you mentioned, that's a benefit to being in the iTunes ecosystem.
Edited by steelbom - 2/29/12 at 6:38pm
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1. Use 2048x1536 resolution screen
2. 1920x1080 content = stretch all the pixels about 5% to upscale. So much for perfect mapping of content.

Sooo glad those lazy iOS devs didn't have to make a 2nd GUI for a higher resolution. It's too hardcore for anyone but Android devs, apparently.
 
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