Originally Posted by Plan9
Why is it whenever someone disagrees with you, they're automatically wrong?
Becuase your wrong, and thats reality, There is no way VLC with ever be stable on linux just due to the constant abi/api changes. Even if you build VLC on linux, it could still break becuase of some change in the unerlying render manager. That in and of itself, it problematic. VLC isn't a bad app, its chasing a moving target.
That's nice for you, but as I said before, you're limited experience is not automatically the default experience for every other person on the planet. So quit acting like you're brief 10min stint on Linux (which has been well logged on here as a complete failure anyway) is anything more than a personal experience.
Theres a whole tracker full of tickets, of problems with vlc, on most every platform. This is hardly isolated. So stop trying to minimizwe the defficencys of the linux and foss stack by implying quality, where largely none exists.
Now I've been nice up until now as I've frequently stated that VLC may perform differently / worse on other hardware and software combinations that differ from my own. In fact the very reason I asked you to clarify your original response was because I believed you but was surprised to read such a dramatic contradiction from my own experiences. However had I known you was the same guy as the "I tried Linux once and failed - you're all wrong" guy from the other thread then I wouldn't have bothered replying.
Hardware should not effect the performance of VLC ever. Unless there is a bug in a driver.
Actually your example was the very definition of "anecdotal" - and not properly referenced either. Where's the hardware spec for your machine? The distro or Windows version you were running? VLC's build number? All you've posted is some passing remark about a brief failed trial with VLC.
The OS abstracts the hardware handling from VLC, and if VLC is reaching down to drivers, thats a bad thing to do, and may explain its bad behavior. Nothing anecdotal about it. I have a copy of the source right here. I don't see any hardware level calls. Just calls to hardware api's that are abstracted by the system. Why doe you refuse to confront the fact that your position on "application stability" is largely flawed.
I'm not defending Linux. I'm not even defending VLC as I've frequently stated that it may run differently on different hardware and software combinations. I was just curious about your experiences and then you launched into your usual narrow-minded and inexperienced rant about how everyone else is wrong. all you needed to say was "when I last tried it xyz happened" and the discussion would have been done with, but instead you started bleating on about how your limited exposure was indicative of the apps performance right across the board and then made unnecessary accusations against my person.
You have a real chip on your shoulder.
I've been using VLC since it had a real and supported BeOS port. HArdware should never crash VLC, ever. Unless there is a stability problem with a driver, but that would be crashing the system anyways.
Actually, it was unstable the one time you tried it. Let's not blow your own experiences out of context please.
Its still largely unstable, in particular with DVD playback. The open source codec seem to be less troublesome, but it still improperly renders a number of formats.
If you look at bug reports for any project the size of VLC, then you'd see hundreds of bug reports (and rendering glitches for other media player projects). All you're doing now is commenting on the open nature of VLC's development.
I am commenting on the fact that there are lots of bug in VLC, and no propritary application that people pay for, would ever be so tolerant of some many bugs.
As I said before, VLC has been rock solid for me - I wouldn't recommend it if I wasn't as there's a whole plethora of media players available for Linux. Maybe i've just been lucky or maybe you've been unlucky - I don't know. However I no longer care as this is now more about you boosting your own ego than it is about anything even remotely factually accurate.
Well, considering your the one out and about claiming how great XYZ is , I doubt its my ego thats problematic here. VLC is a buggy app, its always been a buggy app, and until someone takes control fo the project and cuts off the feature creep and force the devs to do serious stability testing, it will be a bug riddled application, worth exactly what they charge for it.
And I use VLC, but its not stable, nor is it the best player for linux, I'd personally suggest looking to find out which player is the least buggy, on the particular distro you use.
Welcome to the bizzare of API/ABI incompatability.