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The CAP is supposed to fix Alan Wake or Skyrim (don't remember) but has to be disabled in AMD CrossfireX 3D Applications settings.
Otherwise, BSOD and crash for other games. After you unistalled CAP that ruled it out.

I thought they were automated, IE: The Alan Wake profile only loads upon sensing me activate the Alanwake.exe?
Why would that unloaded profile then crash, say, battlefield? My knowledge of these ATI Caps is poor, sorry, and thanks for your patience.

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As we have discussed, did you try to set the third GPU as primary with all the monitors hooked up to take advantage of PCIe @x16 as opposed to @x8 in the first PCIe slot?
Yes, and you were right, it would not work, no monitor input, seems the monitors need to be on slot 1 for some reason.
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If Tri-Fire works fine with a single 1920x1200, I would suspect it has something to do with PCIe lanes.
From single to Eyefinity, the amount of data is 3x per frame.

I am just trying to understand and if possible a solution. At this stage, I am not sure if this is hardware limitation to render Eyefinity resolution.

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I understand your thinking there totally, but some games work fine, specifically, can run F1 2011 or Shift 2 unleshed for a couple of hours with everything on ultra with no problems whatsoever.
The games that do crash, always result in a BSOD 116 error, and the ATidrv.exe listed as the culprit.

Thanks... your help is greatly appreciated I assure you.
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I thought they were automated, IE: The Alan Wake profile only loads upon sensing me activate the Alanwake.exe?
Why would that unloaded profile then crash, say, battlefield? My knowledge of these ATI Caps is poor, sorry, and thanks for your patience.

 

No. If you select "Default" then it will run at whatever set in driver and CAP.  If you are coming from Nvidia SLI, it's similar to game profiles in NV CP.

 

  • Disabled. This option turns off CrossFireX multi-GPU acceleration.
  • Default uses whatever the global system default option is, or whatever AMD has configured, if the game already has a profile in the CAP package.
  • AFR Friendly, which is for games which generally work well with Alternate Frame Rendering (AFR).
  • Optimize 1x1. This is another AFR option, but with optimizations for 1x1 surfaces. The idea is, if AFR Friendly has problems, Optimize 1x1 is another option to try.
  • Use AMD Pre-Defined Profile allows us to select the CrossFireX configuration of another game and apply it to the one for which we are making a profile.

 

 

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As we have discussed, did you try to set the third GPU as primary with all the monitors hooked up to take advantage of PCIe @x16 as opposed to @x8 in the first PCIe slot?

Yes, and you were right, it would not work, no monitor input, seems the monitors need to be on slot 1 for some reason.
 

 

Did you go into BIOS settings to set the PCIe slot where the third 7970 in as first initialized PCIe? If so, after Windows load up, the third will be the primary adapter. You will not see any POST and display until Windows fully loaded.

 

 

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I understand your thinking there totally, but some games work fine, specifically, can run F1 2011 or Shift 2 unleshed for a couple of hours with everything on ultra with no problems whatsoever.
The games that do crash, always result in a BSOD 116 error, and the ATidrv.exe listed as the culprit.

 

Some games don't peg the hardwares as much as the other games. I suspect you got BSOD 116 with BF3 as it is very CPU and GPU intensive games and the CAP is not for BF3, hence why need to select Default, AFR Friendly, Optimize 1x1 or Use AMD Pre-Defined Profile whichever works for you.

 

 

By the way, how did you distribute the PCIe power from PSU to 3 cards and CPU + Motherboard? Does the PSU have multiple +12V rails? Or it's a single +12V rail for everything. If it's a multiple rails, load distribution is very important. BSOD 116 could be power related too from my personal limited experience. Games such as Metro2033 is consuming a lot of power compared to other games. The higher the FPS, the higher the power consumption. One of the reason I run dual-PSU in tandem.


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No. If you select "Default" then it will run at whatever set in driver and CAP.  

Thats how mine stays, have never messed with the profiles. So persumably teh caos shouldnt be causing problems? Unless they specifically make a game worse due to no 7970 support?
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Did you go into BIOS settings to set the PCIe slot where the third 7970 in as first initialized PCIe? If so, after Windows load up, the third will be the primary adapter. You will not see any POST and display until Windows fully loaded.

Hi,
No I didnt, wasnt aware that was an option, never seen that before but will take a look. Thanks.

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Some games don't peg the hardwares as much as the other games.

Agreed, but syndicate looks pretty damned amazing and that works.
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I suspect you got BSOD 116 with BF3 as it is very CPU and GPU intensive games and the CAP is not for BF3

Still not sure what you mean by "The cap is not for BF3" as there is a BF3.exe cap in there isnt there?
Regardless, my ccc ALWAYS just stays on "Default"

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By the way, how did you distribute the PCIe power from PSU to 3 cards and CPU + Motherboard? Does the PSU have multiple +12V rails? Or it's a single +12V rail for everything. If it's a multiple rails, load distribution is very important. BSOD 116 could be power related too from my personal limited experience. Games such as Metro2033 is consuming a lot of power compared to other games. The higher the FPS, the higher the power consumption. One of the reason I run dual-PSU in tandem.

Ah.. power I do at least understand. Yes, I have a single rail XFX 11250w Pro PSU so no drama there and have also ordered a wall socket power meter to see whats what. However, I do have a spare 750W PSU I could try running the third card, just to rule it out.
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OK Stu, about CAP and CrossfireX settings will give you a link but will take a bit of reading if you don't mind.

 

http://hardocp.com/article/2011/12/19/amd_catalyst_121_preview_profiles_performance/

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OK Stu, about CAP and CrossfireX settings will give you a link but will take a bit of reading if you don't mind.

http://hardocp.com/article/2011/12/19/amd_catalyst_121_preview_profiles_performance/

Not at all, eager to learn. thank you.
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Yes definately. Have also tested crossfire in both available configurations to ensure all lanes and cards work.
IE: slot 1 + 2 and Slot 1 + 3.

Have you confirmed that all cards work/not defective individually, ie. not just removing just the crossfire bridges (remove them all), but plugging the monitors to one card at a time? Boot, test, as single card?
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Have you confirmed that all cards work/not defective individually, ie. not just removing just the crossfire bridges (remove them all), but plugging the monitors to one card at a time? Boot, test, as single card?

Yes mate, did that at time of purchase, just swopped them out for teh main unit to ensure the product was good before proceeding.
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Yes mate, did that at time of purchase, just swopped them out for teh main unit to ensure the product was good before proceeding.

Your 3rd card runs fine in the 3rd slot then as a single card?
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Your 3rd card runs fine in the 3rd slot then as a single card?

Sorry, no, the way I tested the card to ensure product suitability was to take my working 7970 out of slot 1, and replace it with the new one, so I knew it worked, individually as a stand alone 7970.
All 3 cards passed that test. have no tried just one in slot 3.

Interestingly, I have been sent the way of "Furmark" so have ran that bench test in extreme and it shows all three cards working fine at 99% load, so thanks to Kens link and explanations of the profiles, I have set up a profile to turn the Xfire off and that works as expected too, showing 0% utilisation of 2 cards, suggesting again that all slots are working fine and, presumably taking plenty of power judging by how hot they got as i have never seen these reach 90c before, not even close!

I am going to make my own BF3 profile now to disable Xfire and over ride AMD's own, see if that allows me to load it up!

Does anyone know if its posible to make a profile to disable JUST ONE card?
I.E: To take Tri-Fire down to Crossfire upon application load of say, BF3?
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To set Tri-Fire ---> Crossfire;

 

1. Remove the card, or

 

2. Disable Crossfire > Device Manager > Display Adapter > Select the card to disable.

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