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Just a fan comparision. means nothing, show me a test with radiators using the "UBER" AP-14/15's vs another fan please.
I wish one of the Scythe GT fanboys on this site could post some factual info on these fans. I have used them and they are so overrated is hurts.

as far as the argument of the GTX and the RX is concerned, im pretty sure the RX wins in low speed. the GTX may be pretty good with low speed fans but its best with the high speed ones.

as for the choice of the GTs over other fans, i think it has to do with their performance/noise ratio. Martin does say that he highly recommends them if you're in the 1000-1800RPM range. outside of that, it's either too hard to tell the difference, or there are better fans. i'll be doing my own testing against my s-flex's and gelids but why do you think they're overrated?
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as far as the argument of the GTX and the RX is concerned, im pretty sure the RX wins in low speed. the GTX may be pretty good with low speed fans but its best with the high speed ones.
as for the choice of the GTs over other fans, i think it has to do with their performance/noise ratio. Martin does say that he highly recommends them if you're in the 1000-1800RPM range. outside of that, it's either too hard to tell the difference, or there are better fans. i'll be doing my own testing against my s-flex's and gelids but why do you think they're overrated?

Everyone recommends them and thats fine as they perform ok, However a a GT at X RPM dose not cool better than other fans of the same RPM. In my personal experiance the GT fans are just over rated. Point and proof is in the link I gave and the one who posted about AP-14/black ice GTX being the best. Proove it, Because I can show you many reviews show the Black ice won't cool better untill the RPM's hit the 1600 range. He is assuming that a 1450 GT fan out cools 1600 RPM fans.

Bottom line, show some proof that a Black ice with AP-14's cools better than an RX with ap-14's. I'll bet body parts that the RX cools better. People seem to think that these fans break laws of physic's or soothing on here.

EDIT: you are right, the Black ice is better, but only when high RPM fans are used.
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From my experience...

low noise = BlackIce SR-1 - still great performance

highest performance but requires high RPM/static pressure fans = BlackIce GTX:thumb: = loud
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From my experience...
low noise = BlackIce SR-1 - still great performance
highest performance but requires high RPM/static pressure fans = BlackIce GTX:thumb: = loud

Bingo, the Black Ice SR-1 is for low noise/low RPM usage (compete's with the RX rads)

Black ice GTX is what you want when you are going to use some honking 120*38 delta/san ace's or what have you.

I won't argue that you could get good performance from a black Ice GTX and low speed fans, but for the cheaper you could get a better radiator to suite the fans you want. Optimization thumb.gif
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Ya it is crazy it even says it right on their website that SR-1s are for low RPM fans. tongue.gif

I personally love them and recommend them to anyone looking for quiet system... but again will still do a great job at keeping a system chill.

I ran one 280 (2x140) SR-1 and cooled a 2600k @ 5Ghz and a GTX580 @ 1Ghz... neither got over 60c.
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Ya it is crazy it even says it right on their website that SR-1s are for low RPM fans. tongue.gif
I personally love them and recommend them to anyone looking for quiet system... but again will still do a great job at keeping a system chill.
I ran one 280 (2x140) SR-1 and cooled a 2600k @ 5Ghz and a GTX580 @ 1Ghz... neither got over 60c.

As i said in my first post, it all depends on the fans you are going to use. There are tons of nice combo's, but if you want the best possible performing radiator(who doesn't?!?) you have to pick based on your fan.

What fan's did you pair with that SR-1 combo?
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I said the GTX will perform better at 1450 RPM in push/pull, because of the extra static pressure provided (almost doubling it). In pull or push only, then your numbers of 1600-2000 RPM will be correct.

Skinnee Labs is working on the triple radiators, and he will be testing the RX360 with the same setup. However, based on the link you provided, the Thermochill outperforms the RX at fan speeds above 1200 RPM. Extrapolating over to Skinnee Lab's tests, the GTX outperformed the Thermochill with the Gentle Typhoons at 1000 RPM. Now, in the tests you linked, with the Yate Loon fans, the GTX was not able to surpass the Thermochill until 2000 RPM. If that's not an indicator of the Gentle Typhoon's greater static pressure, then I'm not sure what is.

Not all fans will perform the same at the same RPM. Some could be static pressure optimized, which leads to lower maximum air flow volume. Others are the opposite. For example, the Scythe Slipstreams are horrible radiator fans due to their low static pressure design, but make great case fans due to high airflow volume. Also, as someone else said, the Gentle Typhoons being quieter for the same amount of cooling potential is the biggest factor.

Roundup of fans tested. As you can clearly see, the Gentle Typhoons dominate in CFM/noise. If you look through some of the individual reviews, comparing the Coolermaster R4 fans and the Gentle Typhoon AP-15, at 1850 RPM, the Gentle Typhoon had an air flow rate of 36 CFM, while the R4 had 33 CFM. This is with a low restriction radiator, the MCR120.
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I said the GTX will perform better at 1450 RPM in push/pull, because of the extra static pressure provided (almost doubling it). In pull or push only, then your numbers of 1600-2000 RPM will be correct.
Skinnee Labs is working on the triple radiators, and he will be testing the RX360 with the same setup. However, based on the link you provided, the Thermochill outperforms the RX at fan speeds above 1200 RPM. Extrapolating over to Skinnee Lab's tests, the GTX outperformed the Thermochill with the Gentle Typhoons at 1000 RPM. Now, in the tests you linked, with the Yate Loon fans, the GTX was not able to surpass the Thermochill until 2000 RPM. If that's not an indicator of the Gentle Typhoon's greater static pressure, then I'm not sure what is.
Not all fans will perform the same at the same RPM. Some could be static pressure optimized, which leads to lower maximum air flow volume. Others are the opposite. For example, the Scythe Slipstreams are horrible radiator fans due to their low static pressure design, but make great case fans due to high airflow volume. Also, as someone else said, the Gentle Typhoons being quieter for the same amount of cooling potential is the biggest factor.
Roundup of fans tested. As you can clearly see, the Gentle Typhoons dominate in CFM/noise. If you look through some of the individual reviews, comparing the Coolermaster R4 fans and the Gentle Typhoon AP-15, at 1850 RPM, the Gentle Typhoon had an air flow rate of 36 CFM, while the R4 had 33 CFM. This is with a low restriction radiator, the MCR120.

I'm just going to leave it alone as it seems you missed the OP's question all together... Good luck man.
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I'm just going to leave it alone as it seems you missed the OP's question all together... Good luck man.

OP's question was really open-ended. I gave the option that I thought would give the best performance while staying quiet, and you said I was wrong. I simply tried to prove my point to you, that's all. If you're going to be stuck in the mindset that your option is the right choice, and every other is wrong, then so be it. Leave it up to the OP to decide which option he believes best for him.
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