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Hello everyone, I'm new here to Overclock.net and am looking for educated assistance that only the community such as this can provide regarding Battlefield 3. I've been been jumping through EA customer support phone calls with no help; of course they never document any of the bugs or errors that players are reporting. I will try to give as much detailed information as possible in this initial post and in replies if needed. Thanks again.

Extent of the problem Whenever I connect to a server I have experiencing a spike in my CPU and GPU processes resulting in a drastic frame rate drop. I do not experience any sort of rubber banding or randomly jumping across the map. When I first join I can typically play uninterrupted from this glitch for about five minutes or so, although it is completely random. My frame rates are consistently around 60+ leading up to the drop. Once the GPU and CPU spike, however, my frames drop very low to around 1-5 per second. After this glitch, which typically lasts between one and three seconds on average, my frame rates return to normal and resume 60+. These CPUGPU spikes are completely random but seem to follow one another in regular intervals of about 10-30 seconds. Furthermore, I should note that during this process spike, my audio cuts out temporarily and then resumes to normal after. This all takes place, usually, in large battles where a lot of action is taking place, although it can happen randomly even while running alone and far from combat.

My computer is a pre-build laptop MSI GT 683 DXR

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As far as drivers and updates are concerned, I'm am fully up to date on the nVidia GTX 570M drivers and RealTek Audio.

I have tried all combinations of in-game graphics settings and still experience spiking even on the lowest settings.
I'm having trouble accessing the MSI BIOS on start up to disable the hyper-threading feature, if everyone has ideas on how to help with that.

Here are a few pictures before the spiking occurs:
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Here are the pictures of the spikes:
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To be clear, I have no intentions of overclocking my CPU as I was having core CPU temps reaching 100 celcius while using Prime95 within a couple minutes.
If anyone has experience with this laptop or tips regarding it, those are always appreciated.

Thanks again
-Rasper
Edited by Rasper - 2/29/12 at 11:37am
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Yep, BF3 is the new Crysis, it is a monster at resources, and well, at least this time is actually doing good with the graphics and effects, so its normal, its what you should expect when playing battlefield 3, in fact Bad Company 2 players saw the same thing.

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Yep, BF3 is the new Crysis, it is a monster at resources, and well, at least this time is actually doing good with the graphics and effects, so its normal, its what you should expect when playing battlefield 3, in fact Bad Company 2 players saw the same thing.
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I've had multiple computers that handle battlefield 3 very well at 1.5+ of vram. thing is Rasper has 1.5 vram, a sufficient gpu/cpu and i still dont understand why this game would spike like that on his laptop, i do understand laptops CPUs dont have enough performance to compare them to some high end PCs but he got a pretty decent setup there.
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Can you fill out your sig rig? Also what settings are you running the game at? Might just need to turn something down.
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Can you fill out your sig rig? Also what settings are you running the game at? Might just need to turn something down.

Way to not read his post. applaud.gif

So from what I understand its not something related to the performance of your hardware more that something is happening during game play that affects the performance.

Have you tried to start the system with the minimum of applications running ( anything that you don't need don't start - go to run and start msconfig press win+R and type msconfig and be brutal disable everything that you don't need, its just for testing purpose )

Also latest drivers are not always the best, try different drivers for onboard sound / network and reinstall directx
GPU ram only botlenecks the card on high resolution ( or multimonitor ) and high filters like antialiasing if you have AA AF off and game @ 1920x1080 your amount of Vram is more then enough

Does this happen only in multiplayer ? If so then it might be some network related problem ( packet loss and some information about annother player or some action on the server lags and your GPU waits for the go from the game engine to render something ... thats why in mmo's where there is lot of players FPS drop because engine is waiting for information on all the items each individual has among others ), but due to the fact that it happens only after a while you are connected and the regular interval makes this rather unlikely

I never played BF3 ( don't own the game ... yet ) so I dont know about this but it might be the anti cheat mecanism kicking in and scanning your game that affects this, try connecting to servers that don't have punkbuster or whatever anti cheat measures BF uses, or install the game to a different partition


And the last thing I can think of is swap memory, depending how big it is how much ram and your workload it might create this problem ... increase swap space


Most of this information is a shot in the dark with all the issues I can think of, one might help you, or not but until you try you never know.
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I appreciate the response, Goliath.ro.

I have tried disabling all unnecessary programs through the processes menu (Crtl+Shift+Esc) and I am still getting the poor performance that I've had while playing. Your idea of reinstalling directX is interesting and I'll give that a go.

I have AA and AF off at the moment, so like you said I doubt this is a GPU ram issue.

This also only happens in multiplayer as far as I know. I've done some testing while playing the campaign (offline) and haven't noticed the spikes occurring.
Edited by Rasper - 2/28/12 at 11:40pm
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i dont have an i7, but in my adventure of trying to get the best preformance out of my system, i've come across several post or videos saying that if you disable hyper threading in bios i can eliminate the lag spikes or stuttering.. again i dont have one, and it wasnt my problem.
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i've come across several post or videos saying that if you disable hyper threading in bios i can eliminate the lag spikes or stuttering

This is one of my problems that I'm trying to address. I can't seem to access the BIOS on startup at all. There are a few options to chose from while booting that seem to only allow minor changes to the computer such as boot order and date/time. I haven't been able to actually go into a "real" BIOS and access the CPU to change the hyperthreading. If anyone has any information regarding pre-built MSI laptop BIOS settings, that would be of great help to me. I want to see if disabling hyperthreading is the culprit.
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This is one of my problems that I'm trying to address. I can't seem to access the BIOS on startup at all. There are a few options to chose from while booting that seem to only allow minor changes to the computer such as boot order and date/time. I haven't been able to actually go into a "real" BIOS and access the CPU to change the hyperthreading. If anyone has any information regarding pre-built MSI laptop BIOS settings, that would be of great help to me. I want to see if disabling hyperthreading is the culprit.

Also change your BF3 profile settings like this :
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