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post #11 of 52
You can have your little squint tablets, notebooks, netbooks, and phones, tyvm!

I'll take my 23" - 27" Display any freaking day of the week!

Who cares about quality, as long as the desktop monitors are "Good Enough" and I'm telling you first hand, they are indeed "Good Enough"! biggrin.gif

A 27" LED @ 1080p is 3X better than the highest quality 10" display, and I'm sure I'm not alone on those sentiments either!

In the end, size does really matter, and I believe someone accurately answered your question, there are limitations to what a monitor can do based upon Video Card Performance, as it's a lot easier to display high resolution on a small monitor vs a big monitor, everyone knows that..

Look at those Huge TV Monitors, people don't even realize how poor the quality are in those grossly overpriced things!

A 27" Computer Monitor is ideal for everything you need, TV Included!

I'll be glad when these mobile users come over to the Dark Side (Desktop), then we will stop hearing them make points that are rather mute!

Do you want to huddle and squint over your weak mobile computer or compute on something 10X faster and more productive!?
Edited by _GTech - 2/29/12 at 9:01am
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Originally Posted by Manyak View Post

Yeah everyone has different standards when it comes to framerates. But technically speaking, you're not "maxing out" a game if you're not maxing out the framerate as well tongue.gif

Well then, if you are not getting 120 FPS on a 120Hz monitor, it's not maxed out. tongue.gif
But yeah... I guess technically I'm not pushing my monitor to it's maximum potential. wink.gif
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Um money wise, it would costs $2000 on an 27". Secondly, do you stare at your monitor screen 15cm-30cm from it?

 
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post #14 of 52
i dont think there's any real reason why desktop monitors are behind. 2560x1600 on tablets is right around the corner.

one cannot really blame it on technology or demand. building a cpu seems to be far more complicated than building a monitor but a cpu doesn't cost much.

i own a 30" 2560x1600 monitor and honestly after the newness wears down, 2560x1600 is really not a big deal.. i now work more on my 3" portrait monitors (3600x1920). that's (1920x1200)3.
(my current 6970 can handle all 4 monitors at the same time. even eyefinity gaming in high settings plus the 30" on the side).


looks like toshiba's working on it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmsFl8TIWWc

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Eyevis produces a 56" LCD named EYELCD 56 QHD HD while Toshiba makes the P56QHD and in October 2011 released the REGZA 55x3,[34] which is claimed to be the First QFHD glasses-free 3D TV, Mitsubishi Electric the 56P-QF60LCU, and Sony the SRM-L560, all which can deliver a resolution of 3840×2160.[35] Landmark also has produced a 56" QFHD monitor, the M5600.[36]

CMI has built a 27.84" 158 PPI QFHD IPS panel for medical displays since November 2010.[37]

Version 1.4 of the HDMI Specification released in June 2009 supports QFHD.[38]
    
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Originally Posted by Remix65 View Post

i dont think there's any real reason why desktop monitors are behind. 2560x1600 on tablets is right around the corner.
one cannot really blame it on technology or demand. building a cpu seems to be far more complicated than building a monitor but a cpu doesn't cost much.
i own a 30" 2560x1600 monitor and honestly after the newness wears down, 2560x1600 is really not a big deal.. i now work more on my 3" portrait monitors (3600x1920). that's (1920x1200)3.
(my current 6970 can handle all 4 monitors at the same time. even eyefinity gaming in high settings plus the 30" on the side).
looks like toshiba's working on it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmsFl8TIWWc
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Eyevis produces a 56" LCD named EYELCD 56 QHD HD while Toshiba makes the P56QHD and in October 2011 released the REGZA 55x3,[34] which is claimed to be the First QFHD glasses-free 3D TV, Mitsubishi Electric the 56P-QF60LCU, and Sony the SRM-L560, all which can deliver a resolution of 3840×2160.[35] Landmark also has produced a 56" QFHD monitor, the M5600.[36]
CMI has built a 27.84" 158 PPI QFHD IPS panel for medical displays since November 2010.[37]
Version 1.4 of the HDMI Specification released in June 2009 supports QFHD.[38]

There is no way a single 6970 can run eyefinity decently without dropping the settings. I know because i had 2 6970s and that was barely enough
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There is no way a single 6970 can run eyefinity decently without dropping the settings. I know because i had 2 6970s and that was barely enough

what's decent?
http://ScrnSht.com/yziaxm

that's pretty much ultra settings with average 44 fps. eyefinity with 2560x1600 on with this in the back. multiple windows up 8GB memory amd 965 3.4ghz m4 128gb.
infact i forgot to add the 15" monitor that's off connected to onboard video.


doesnt go below 44.
    
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post #17 of 52
There is also a bandwidth issue. For example, dual-link DVI cables can only support 1080p resolution at 120Hz. Now cut the dot pitch by 50% and multiply the resolution by 2. It would take 4 dual-link DVI cables to run that monitor at 120Hz, or 2 cables to run it at 60Hz. So using a display port would also be a requirement. That's also only doubling the resolution...

Then you would need a super single GPU or a multiple GPU setup just to run that single monitor to it's potential.

Also, new technology always comes with a hefty price tag. The prices for new technology are usually 2x more than the next best thing at the bare minimum. In this situation I'm betting it would be a LOT more pricy than that.

The price of this setup would be well beyond the market of average individuals and most enthusiasts. I'm sure it's possible, but there's no market for it right now. Triple display setups would be almost unheard of and only the rich could afford it if they wanted it, at least in the beginning. I'm sure there would be a few die-hard people that would save up a year's salary or more to get one. I'd rather buy a new sports car paid in full in cash than drop that much roll on a PC. wink.gif

If you want to feel like you're looking at your iPhone, then sit back from your monitor like 20 feet. smile.gif


Edit: Mistake in the math. It may still not be 100% correct, but this is about a point not a numbers game.
Edited by Phantom_Dave - 2/29/12 at 1:45pm
post #18 of 52
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Originally Posted by Remix65 View Post

what's decent?
http://ScrnSht.com/yziaxm
that's pretty much ultra settings with average 44 fps. eyefinity with 2560x1600 on with this in the back. multiple windows up 8GB memory amd 965 3.4ghz m4 128gb.
infact i forgot to add the 15" monitor that's off connected to onboard video.
doesnt go below 44.

I got 35fps in crysis 1 at 5760x1080 (i forget the exact bezel corrected res) with max settings. I dont have any BF3 numbers because i got rid of my eyefinity before that came out, i was not impressed with the frame rate though
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post #19 of 52
i'll take more real estate over ultra high settings. had i known i couldnt use all 5 ports at the same time with the 6970 i wouldnt have gotten it. it's nice having the 2gb video but there's really not much difference going from the 6870 to 6970.
i've never played cod or bf games. i'm not a hardcore gamer like that.

the sapphire 6970 cost me a little over 200 on ebay. it was in mint boxed condition.
    
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Maxed out, 4xAA / 8xAF or higher, and never dips below 60FPS?
Doubt it.

You do not need AA at that high pixel density.
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