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I've been using Windows Server 8 for about a day now and I can say that it is almost without fault. Between Win4.0-Win8 and OS 7-Leopard this is by far the best of them all by a long shot. The thing I love about this OS is that the server version is essentially stripped down to the barebones of the OS. All of the unnecessary luxuries you get in the regular version of 8 are gone. Not only does that give you better performance but it also eliminates the hassle of dealing with those extra luxuries.
Seriously, the feel of this OS is comparable to a racing car. Stripped down to the bare essentials so that the weight is as low as possible. I love it. This is how an enthusiast's OS should feel. I am completely sold on Win8 Server. Please, take my money Microsoft. biggrin.gif

I've also noticed Windows 8 will recognize any missing runtimes that are needed to run a application. I just tried running something that required .NET framework. And it prompted me and said that I do not have it installed and if I would like to install it now, pushed yes. It downloaded and installed on the progress bar and wala .NET 3.5 was installed that easy. biggrin.gif
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After using it more I really do like Windows 8. My BIGGEST complaint is the start menu. I cannot, for the life of me, get use to it on a non-touch device. They should give you the OPTION of turning it off. Something in the "Turn Windows Features on or off" menu? I don't mind all of the bloatware included because I can always turn that off. But the start menu is a no-no.
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After using it more I really do like Windows 8. My BIGGEST complaint is the start menu. I cannot, for the life of me, get use to it on a non-touch device. They should give you the OPTION of turning it off. Something in the "Turn Windows Features on or off" menu? I don't mind all of the bloatware included because I can always turn that off. But the start menu is a no-no.

*sigh* The start menu was never removed from Windows 8 (the physical classic menu code was). It was only expanded and improved greatly. To be honest I rarely used it on XP, Vista, 7 and im a avid Windows platform programmer. Desktop shortcuts and super bar shortcuts make the start menu virtually useless other then its search feature which still exists in Windows 8 and has the exact same keyboard shortcuts. My biggest complaint is the lack of close buttons in the top right corner of every metro application. Its easily to pile up open programs because of the lack of ability to close them.
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Windows 8 is faster and more efficient then Windows 7 (maybe you should read up on how much IO and network overhead was eliminated). You just said clear as day that you wish you could launch a application without going to the start menu, clearly you have yet to learn how to use the new super bar introduced in Windows 7. The super bar was built FOR pinning applications to it for ease of access. Even using the metro interface launching programs are 10x faster then using the classic start menu. Windows 95 introduced the new desktop environment that we all come to know today 16 years ago. Its time for a change its the 21'st century for crying out loud how long did you think Microsoft was going to milk the classic start menu? People like you are throwing a fit because your so use to the old ways of doing things and are to ignorant to learn how to do it the faster more efficient way. Sure the metro interface was designed for the touch/tablet market in mind. But it serves as a solid platform for desktop users as well. You know whats really ignorant? when every other user comes into these threads and cry about how butt hurt they are about the metro design. You guys do understand if you don't like the metro interface you don't need to use Windows 8, as Windows 7 is still a fairly new player on the field. I mean really it went from pro's and con's about it to posts like "omg I cant use this garbage, what the fudge Microsoft thinking?!?" its ridiculous...
Oh look, I was wondering how long it was going to take for you to make the "21st century" argument. Just because time moves forward does not mean that we miraculously experience progress. In the same manner, just because this happens to be the new thing that Microsoft is doing that does not make it "progressive". They are doing it for clear business reasons. Product line simplification is cheaper in the long run and that is the main driver behind this together with market potential. Every indicator in the industry points towards tablets and mobile devices making up a much larger and much more profitable segment than desktop computers now and in the future. That is pure business and what Microsoft is doing with Windows 8 is also pure business.

On the productivity side nobody is really discussing it because it simply does not matter. People will learn to get by and as long as they can in one way or another get the work done, even if slower or notoriously more inefficient, they will get by and that is why likely these "improvements" to the UI will also make it into the final version of the OS. It's funny actually because somebody said yesterday "why is Microsoft alienating 5 million netbook users out there by making Windows 8 incompatible with the most standard resolution of the same netbooks". The answer is simple, that market segment is basically dead and irrelevant.

As for how effectively I use my Windows shortcuts in the "21st century", I do just fine smile.gif And my "super bar" is very handily loaded with most of my most commonly used application shortcuts. It indeed is quite effective, but I guess I must be using it the "20th century" way. Will you teach me wink.gif
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*sigh* The start menu was never removed from Windows 8 (the physical classic menu code was). It was only expanded and improved greatly. To be honest I rarely used it on XP, Vista, 7 and im a avid Windows platform programmer. Desktop shortcuts and super bar shortcuts make the start menu virtually useless other then its search feature which still exists in Windows 8 and has the exact same keyboard shortcuts. My biggest complaint is the lack of close buttons in the top right corner of every metro application. Its easily to pile up open programs because of the lack of ability to close them.

The lack of close buttons for metro applications is incredibly annoying, for now, I've found the quickest way to close an open metro app are to bring your mouse to the top of the screen, click and hold, then drag to the bottom to 'dump' it. You can say it's intuitive for touch interfaces but with mice it still feels like an incredible amount of effort, of course you could always use keyboard shortcuts, but your other hand isn't always on the keyboard.
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Does this all mean i can't have a nice clear desktop wallpaper?
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To the guys having a hard time closing apps, ALT + F4 closes them immediately.
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To the guys having a hard time closing apps, ALT + F4 closes them immediately.

Obviously, but as mentioned, your other hand isn't always on the keyboard, and I'll bet like myself and many others are used to moving the mouse to the top right to click on that little x. rolleyes.gif
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Is there a feedback button? tongue.gif
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The best way to provide feedback is to participate in the Windows 8 Consumer Preview forum. On this dedicated forum, you'll find thousands of other Windows enthusiasts who are testing our product, posting their experiences, and participating in the Windows 8 Consumer Preview online community. In particular, if you think you've encountered a problem that you'd like to have addressed in future releases of Windows 8, post a “Bug Report” about your issue on the Windows 8 Consumer Preview forum. In your post, describe what you encountered, any text or messages that were displayed, and other information that would help us reproduce your issue in our own testing environments. We're monitoring the Windows 8 Consumer Preview forum and might ask you to post additional information to help us improve the experience.

You can also provide feedback by participating in the Windows Feedback Program and help shape the next generation of Windows. Learn more.

I guess no built in feedback support.

Thanks! thumb.gif
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I was having some sounds issues (basically com crackling), and so I decided to run a DPC latency check, and oh dear, there is something really wrong going on, I tried to disable everything I could but nothing changed, maybe is related to my HD controller driver or something, so I just can't fix it... it's a shame, overall I was enjoying using the OS, but I guess I will need to wait to see if they fix this problem...
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