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It seems that people that have actually tried it, don't hate it as much as before. One question though, can you disable the Metro UI or what?
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It seems that people that have actually tried it, don't hate it as much as before. One question though, can you disable the Metro UI or what?
Yup, that is the exact impression that I got last night. After spending a solid 4-5 hours with it literally focusing on the UI I definitely do not hate it as much and I definitely see some scenarios where it is handy. However, I am still convinced that desktop scenario is just not one of them. As I said in one of my earlier posts, the more you use it the more you understand how it functions and how it does not fit into a desktop environment.

As for your second question, no, Metro UI cannot be disabled any longer. The ability to disable it has been removed.
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Metro will look very cluttered after installing many applications. I still have not installed Visual Studio 2011 and games yet.

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It should be noted that MS already has the analytics on the start menu. People don't use it except for pinned apps 90%+ of the time, or were using the search functionality (which is still awesome).

Also, the several-scroll-pages-long alphabetical list of possibly-nested folders was less functional than the metro start menu.
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Windows 8 is the worst piece of crap (operating system) I`ve ever tried. Whoever designed this have no idea what the market want. For touchpads and cell phones, shure. For desktops and notebooks, no way in hell. It is confusing, it is god damn ugly and it makes a simple task harder.

If this is the final version, it will be more fail than Vista was. Mark my words. I`m sticking with Windows 7
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How do I make it boot from usb? should I use windows 7 usb download tool?
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I just went through the New folder trick + Vistart to regain the Start menu in Windows 8, worked like a charm!

I must admit Windows 8 is rather fast and a refinement again on top of what already is a solid base [Windows 7]. I'm excited to see more of what's new, but I'm overjoyed I have my start menu!

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Any word on how long you can use this?
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It should be noted that MS already has the analytics on the start menu. People don't use it except for pinned apps 90%+ of the time, or were using the search functionality (which is still awesome).
Also, the several-scroll-pages-long alphabetical list of possibly-nested folders was less functional than the metro start menu.

The problem with all the telemetry data is that it really only gives you numbers and does not portray the way people actually use the computer.

Let me give you one very basic example: Notepad. I usually use Notepad to write quick stuff, a link, etc. In some days I don't use it at all, in other days I use it a lot. Now, with Windows 7 it is in the Start Menu as one of the frequently used programs, and it has the very convenient jump list Microsoft introduced with Windows 7. But does my usage warrant me putting it on the taskbar ? No, my taskbar has a limited amount of space and I don't want to put Notepad there. You might suggest I put a shortcut on the desktop. Right, but then I lose the jump list functionality.

As it is, Windows 7 conveniently allows you to customize your experience in such a way that you can have stuff on your taskbar, on the Start Menu and on the desktop, and that segmentation works very well.

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I just went through the New folder trick + Vistart to regain the Start menu in Windows 8, worked like a charm!
I must admit Windows 8 is rather fast and a refinement again on top of what already is a solid base [Windows 7]. I'm excited to see more of what's new, but I'm overjoyed I have my start menu!
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Wait, what ? It is there after all ? What is the trick to get it again ? Hooray!

So, all those people saying the Start Menu code was removed from the Consumer Preview were wrong.

I will be installing it on my laptop then and leave the Developer Preview on my desktop to compare.

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Any word on how long you can use this?

I don't know, but the Developer Preview was supposed to expire this month but had an update a few days ago, and now it will only expire next year, so the Consumer Preview will likely expire next year too.
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Wait, what ? It is there after all ? What is the trick to get it again ? Hooray!
So, all those people saying the Start Menu code was removed from the Consumer Preview were wrong.
I will be installing it on my Laptop then and leave the Developer Preview on my Desktop to compare.

No, no, it HAS been removed. What he did there is run a program called "ViStart" which adds an orb to the task bar that only replicates the Windows 7 start menu.
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http://www.ghacks.net/2012/03/02/vistart-restores-start-menu-disables-metro-ui-in-windows-8/
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Once it is installed and running, you will notice that the start menu orb has been placed in its original location. You can click on the icon to bring up the start menu. A side-effect is that ViStart maps the Windows key to the opening of the start menu, so that the operating system won’t switch into Metro anymore when you press that key. Metro UI is however not completely turned off, and you may be able to get back in via Alt-Tab or the Charms menu.

The icon overlaps with the first pinned taskbar icon on the other hand which you may not like. Here is how this is resolved:

-Create a new folder on the desktop or another location.
-Right-click the Windows Taskbar and select Toolbars > New Toolbar from the context menu. Select the newly created folder. You will notice that the new toolbar is placed on the right end of the taskbar.
-Right-click the taskbar again and select Lock The Taskbar. This unlocks the Windows Taskbar so that you can move the taskbar elements around.
-Now drag the new toolbar to the very left of the screen so that starts before the original toolbar with the pinned taskbar items.
-Right-click the taskbar again and uncheck Show Text and Show title in the context menu.
-Now move the original toolbar with a double-click on the separator near the start menu orb.

I followed the bullet points. Then ran Vistart.

So by doing this I assume the original start menu code is still in Windows 8, and can be enabled like so.

To be honest getting a newer better File system, refinements across every aspect of the OS, including speed and functionality excluding the Metro UI, but with all the new features, I will buy Windows 8, BUT will use Vistart if the startmenu is not made an option.
Edited by jameschisholm - 3/2/12 at 4:02pm
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