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What happens if it gets stuck 100 KM up?

Take the stairs back down.
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It's about time. Rockets are just way too expensive. This''ll also open the door to larger craft, able to get us further than ever biggrin.gif

This. A single rocket takes millions (I really don't know the actual figures redface.gif) to produce and operate. If we can get something that can get us up there for much cheaper, it will open up space for more people and businesses, and make putting things and people into orbit much easier (and safer). People think 7.5 days is a lot of time, but it is definitely worth the cost if it works out in the end. Also this isn't a traditional elevator like you would see in a building. It would be more like a pod with living quarters built to be made compact, light, and aerodynamic.
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This. A single rocket takes millions (I really don't know the actual figures redface.gif) to produce and operate. If we can get something that can get us up there for much cheaper, it will open up space for more people and businesses, and make putting things and people into orbit much easier (and safer). People think 7.5 days is a lot of time, but it is definitely worth the cost if it works out in the end. Also this isn't a traditional elevator like you would see in a building. It would be more like a pod with living quarters built to be made compact, light, and aerodynamic.
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Tickets cost $200,000 and deposits start from $20,000.

http://www.virgingalactic.com/booking/
    
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The logistics and materials necessary to build something long enough to wrap around the earth more than 2 times, the technology required to make it trong enough to withstand the extreme pressures exerted over something so huge extended that far into space, and the technology to even begin to figure out how to build it in the first place would seem to offset any savings we would incur by not having to use rockets.......

Building something from prefabricated parts is easy. More of that, now you can fabricate things on top of rising building/other kind of structure right now. Taipei 101 is the building that proved that. Materials? Carbon nanotubes is enough to say. So think about fully automated fabrication and supply process, done by some fancy robots (not humanoid type but specificly desighed) and monitored by humans from .. i dont know, Tropical Islands? Problem is that we dont have those things advanced enough... yet.
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Of course a rocket is much safer... sitting on top of thousands of tons of fuel, one stray spark and the entire thing explodes. I believe there is a reason why they're trying to build the space elevator: it's safer, even with all the crap we have to deal with in space and the inner atmosphere.
The space elevator is much more economical, and in a sense, much safer too. We'll see what happens.
As for the counter weight, have you ever tried to sling a ball attached to the end of a string around in circles? Same idea, but we're now doing it on a global scale. That's why the tether has to be so long.

of course. a spark can cause a flying rocket to explode. we better figure out how to protect the fuel from igniting while its flying through the air.
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Let me break it down for you:
1) Build space eleveator
2) Put spaceship docking area on the far end
3) Fuel spaceships
4) Send spaceships on their way without having to break the earths gravity, greatly increasing their efficiency and reducing the amount of fuel they need to carry.
5) ?????
6) PROFIT.

Space elevators are certainly feasible by our current technology standards, we just need someone to be the big boy and take charge of the project. Will it be really expensive? Yes, but look at how much the space shuttle program cost us. By 2008 the bill was about US$170 billion without inflation, which would cover up through STS-126 (there were a total of 135 missions flown). The vehicle was prohibitively expensive, despite being "reusable" because it required about $1.5 billion to refit and refuel it. Rockets are one-shot deals. This would be a reusable space launch system, with minimal fuel requirements compared to conventional methods. I'm confident it would be like putting solar panels on your house - seem's really expensive until a few years down the road when they've "paid for themselves". I think we see space elevators in science fiction a lot not just because they're a technological marvel, but because they bring a new level of practicality to space travel. Springboarding to the Moon, Mars, and beyond. Best plan thumb.gif
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This. A single rocket takes millions (I really don't know the actual figures redface.gif) to produce and operate. If we can get something that can get us up there for much cheaper, it will open up space for more people and businesses, and make putting things and people into orbit much easier (and safer). People think 7.5 days is a lot of time, but it is definitely worth the cost if it works out in the end. Also this isn't a traditional elevator like you would see in a building. It would be more like a pod with living quarters built to be made compact, light, and aerodynamic.

All of that is assuming the rocket even makes it out of Earth's atmosphere or the launch pad for that matter. Rockets explode all the time, or have other failures which doom the payload, look at the space shuttles. They had over 98% reliability, which is higher than anything else that is put into space, and they were not immune to failure. The existence of an elevator would make it possible to build large modules (like US aircraft carriers) on Earth and send them into orbit to build space stations and ships, we could mine titanium from the moon.
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@Mad Pistol, We don't have enough Helium to use as fuel anyways. Maybe when Fusion plants go online we create our own.

Carbon nanotube ribbons held together by nothing but the van der Waals force are less than one thousandth the thickness of your hair and are stronger than steel.
Edited by PoopaScoopa - 2/29/12 at 2:59pm
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Just imagine the size of the shadow this would cast! it'd literally span most of the earth!
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Pretty long trip. Lol. What would you talk about? ".... so... How about that weather?" *Looks out window* "..Yeah, cloudy.." smile.gif
    
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