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post #1 of 11
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Hi everyone, here is the deal...

My office computer is slow... i'm talking pentium 4 slow... and i'm looking to fix some things with it.

1. I'm not allowed to bring in a personal computer to work off of ( which I would love to do )
2. I have upgraded some of the components in the machine.
- Swapped CPU from 2.2 p4 to a 3.2 p4 ( no noticeable gain in performance )
- installed Nvidia gs 7800 256mb card
- swapped stock 512mb ram for some super old sticks ( 3gig at 160.0mhz according to CPUID ) ( Should I go buy some modern ram on the cheap? )
3. wiping and reinstalling xp on the stock HD is not a good idea.

Basically, i'm expected to work on a machine that does not even meet the basic system requirements

Basically, I do light autocad work, and the stock 40gig HDD is dying, and it can take anywhere from 10-30 mins to get my machine booted up and my programs running.

So, I'm wondering, If i got a small SSD to put the OS and such on, would that help performance even with the crappy CPU
( my home rig has an SSD and i love it )

Would that increase my speed any? ( the SSD would have to be external, though a usb 2.0 adapter as I can't put an SSD in these old machines )


Or does anyone else have any options or ideas about how to best speed up my system?

( i suppose first I can try it with a regular ( but newer ) HDD that I have, and set everything up on my home computer, and just connect it to my work computer once its all set up.



NOTE: My office is on a network, basically one where you have to log into your user before accessing windows, if I put a fresh win xp install on there would I still be able to log into windows?


Basically I got into computers a few months ago, I don't know much about this old stuff.
post #2 of 11
I'd try to use a newer hard drive first.
hard drives have made massive improvements regarding speed compared to a circa Y2K hardware.
I don't know that networking stuff, but if you are unsure, you could always clone your 40gb onto a newer hard drive wink.gif
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Originally Posted by Xiphos View Post

ou could always clone your 40gb onto a newer hard drive wink.gif

yeah, the current HDD uses the old ribbon wire connections, and unless there is some kind of cheap adapter or something, it would have to connect via usb ( obviously thats gonna be a bottle neck, so i might not even need an ssd )
Edited by ClaytonGFinley - 2/29/12 at 11:21am
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I'd try to use a newer hard drive first.
hard drives have made massive improvements regarding speed compared to a circa Y2K hardware.
I don't know that networking stuff, but if you are unsure, you could always clone your 40gb onto a newer hard drive wink.gif

^ This is clearly the best solution.

Upgrade to a 7200 RPM Drive, you probably have a 5900 RPM drive, most likely, just clone it...
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For simplicity sake. Would installing my main program onto a usb flash drive make any difference? ( all my file saves are on a server, so the save and open speed can't be changed as its dependent on the server.
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Wait a minute, I think you are focusing on fixing the wrong problem. Ok, you are not allowed to bring in your own personal computer, but you are allowed to upgrade major components of the PC in the office, so.... why don't you just buy a cheap motherboard and a new CPU instead of wasting money on old components or components that use older interfaces that you can't use in another modern system ?

Just buy a cheap H61 motherboard, a Dual Core Sandy Bridge Celeron or Pentium and 4 GB of 1333 DDR3 memory and a 320 - 500 GB HDD. You don't even have to buy a GPU because the CPU already has one.
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Wait a minute, I think you are focusing on fixing the wrong problem. Ok, you are not allowed to bring in your own personal computer, but you are allowed to change major components on the PC in the office, so.... why don't you just buy a cheap motherboard and a new CPU instead of wasting money on old components or components that use older interfaces that you can't use in another modern system ?
Just buy a cheap H61 motherboard, a Dual Core Sandy Bridge Celeron or Pentium and 4 GB of 1333 DDR3 memory and a 320 - 500 GB HDD. You don't even have to buy a GPU because they CPU already has one.

i would also need to buy a new PSU, as the current one does not have modern connections so basically, I would be using the current case to hide my hardware.

My worry with that, is if i secretly upgraded everything, there is a good chance my it guy could come in and swap systems, or such, where if i had my own computer i kept at work, if i was fired or anything, i could just unplug it and toss it in the car, and go home.
post #8 of 11
No working off of USB would be pretty slow. Grab a larger 7200rpm IDE drive or get any SATA drive and get a SATA to IDE connector.
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My worry with that, is if i secretly upgraded everything, there is a good chance my it guy could come in and swap systems, or such, where if i had my own computer i kept at work, if i was fired or anything, i could just unplug it and toss it in the car, and go home.

So all the upgrades that you did,your IT guy knows about it?If they do then you should make a list of all the components that you want to change yourself and tell your manager or supervisor also so you don't get in trouble or anything.I kinda understand how they don't want you to bring you're own computer as they are probably afraid of having you or anyone,copy sensitive info,software or anything of that nature unless you have been with the company for a very long time or have a high position within.
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i would also need to buy a new PSU, as the current one does not have modern connections so basically, I would be using the current case to hide my hardware.
My worry with that, is if i secretly upgraded everything, there is a good chance my it guy could come in and swap systems, or such, where if i had my own computer i kept at work, if i was fired or anything, i could just unplug it and toss it in the car, and go home.

Yeah, in the end, sure, you would be hiding your hardware behind the old case, but you have two options: either come clean and tell whoever runs your company that your PC does not meet the requirements to do the job you need to do and that they should give you modern hardware or just tell them, "ok, you won't allow me to bring my own system, let me buy the components, that I can bring back home with me when I move to another job, and you get to securely erase the HDD before I take it with me. The current components will be stored away safely so it can be all put back together."

The third option is buying a 320 or 500 GB HDD with an ATA interface. There are PCI SATA cards that provide you with two ports, but they are expensive.
 
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