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Hey guys! I'm studying computer science at univ and started loving unix based systems (ubuntu, mostly) since I started smile.gif it's only my first year though..
But anyways, I had an old laptop as a gift from a dude in class (HP nx8800, 1.76Ghz Single core cpu, 2Gb of ddr ram (while max is said to be 512Mb loool)). It's a sturdy one and has helped a lot when being outdoors!

I've received a Graphics Engine assignement this semester and eehm...well...all those calculations seem to be taking their toll on this lappie tongue.gif, he's having a bit of a harder time compiling and running the engine and there are loads of objects/files to come. It's normal, it's about 7-8 years old, I'm not going to cry about it biggrin.gif. It's not such a big performance loss yet, but it might become one...

There is one thing though...that I would like to keep: my very clean install of ubuntu 11.10 without ANY problems. Not a single one and it's got all the right packages installed for my current assignements. Here comes the question: I would like to create my own live image WITH most packages already pre-installed. I have no idea if it would work or should be avoided for some reason, but I can't really believe it shouldn't work out since you can already create an image of basic components...why wouldn't I be able to bring along the non-basic components with it? ;D

I generally program in Eclipse (Indigo) and would really like to keep the extra software/packages installed, while moving it onto another rig.
I can also imagine this kind of stuff bringing problems, but as I said, I'm not advanced enough to be sure whether I can make this happen or not.

Would love to hear a yes! If it's a no, giving me some alternatives is almost as supportive, thanks in advance smile.gif
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I knew this wouldn't get much of a response... but well, bump
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well .. there's really about 8 million ways to do this. it depends on what you are trying to solve. What your partitioning strategy is would help. What about your home directory?

1. Use dd to copy every bit of the drive to another disk. Later restore the image again using dd. Commonly referred to as "ghosting".. This is really only good if you are restoring to the same drive or an identical one, e.g. if you somehow break the install irreparably (harder than you think) or have a drive failure and replace it with an identical one (has to be the same geometry or larger). In general this is more trouble than it's worth as the image will probably age quickly, and is coupled to that disk, but it doesn't hurt to have one around. You can also do this per partition and save the mbr+partition table separately. Before you start, one trick to shrink the image size is to fill the filesystems up with a file full of /dev/zero using dd, remove it, and then pipe it through gzip. This will squash the image down from the size of the disk (40GB) to the size of the data (2GB). see http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/saw27/notes/backup-hard-disk-partitions.html

2. Use a shell script built around tar to manually backup and restore your filesystems. These scripts can get a bit more complex than you might think, if you google around you may find some nice ubuntu specific versions that are highly used. I personally have had great luck with this script in the past, it's for gentoo, but to use it in ubuntu should be no different - you'd just have to change the include/excludes a bit (which everyone has to do anyway) http://blinkeye.ch/dokuwiki/doku.php/projects/mkstage4 .. this has the upside over option 1 of being able to go onto any target system - as long as you have the drive space. (plus any kernel config changes... but probably none as you're using a bloat kernel) You would also have to manually prep the disk beforehand (partitions, mount, mkfs) and install the boot loader afterwards.

3. Use a tool like bacula to do full/differential/incremental backups every night to another machine on your network. This may be overkill for you, but you should seriously consider it. The bare metal restore process is a little tricky, but a rewarding experience. Lots of upsides over option 2, you just have to do some work (and .. its actually pretty easy). www.bacula.org

4. Customize the ubuntu installer program. I myself have never tried this, but it might do what you want. You'd boot the machine into that purple screen, run through it, and have some custom parts slapped in there at the end that install whatever else you need. Given the need to constantly maintain that (and build / debug / fix it in the first place.. ), I personally could not recommend this over option 3, but it may meet your requirements a little better. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization

5. i'm sure there's more ... anyone

what ever you do - just make sure you test it before you assume you'll be able to restore. smile.gif
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There's an apt-get command that will dump the list of installed packages. Armed with this (piped into a file), you can use it as input for an "apt-get install" on the new rig, and you'll have a new copy (sans your data though, you'll have to tar that up, or just copy your entire /home directory)
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well .. there's really about 8 million ways to do this. it depends on what you are trying to solve. What your partitioning strategy is would help. What about your home directory?
1. Use dd to copy every bit of the drive to another disk. Later restore the image again using dd. Commonly referred to as "ghosting".. This is really only good if you are restoring to the same drive or an identical one, e.g. if you somehow break the install irreparably (harder than you think) or have a drive failure and replace it with an identical one (has to be the same geometry or larger). In general this is more trouble than it's worth as the image will probably age quickly, and is coupled to that disk, but it doesn't hurt to have one around. You can also do this per partition and save the mbr+partition table separately. Before you start, one trick to shrink the image size is to fill the filesystems up with a file full of /dev/zero using dd, remove it, and then pipe it through gzip. This will squash the image down from the size of the disk (40GB) to the size of the data (2GB). see http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/saw27/notes/backup-hard-disk-partitions.html
2. Use a shell script built around tar to manually backup and restore your filesystems. These scripts can get a bit more complex than you might think, if you google around you may find some nice ubuntu specific versions that are highly used. I personally have had great luck with this script in the past, it's for gentoo, but to use it in ubuntu should be no different - you'd just have to change the include/excludes a bit (which everyone has to do anyway) http://blinkeye.ch/dokuwiki/doku.php/projects/mkstage4 .. this has the upside over option 1 of being able to go onto any target system - as long as you have the drive space. (plus any kernel config changes... but probably none as you're using a bloat kernel) You would also have to manually prep the disk beforehand (partitions, mount, mkfs) and install the boot loader afterwards.
3. Use a tool like bacula to do full/differential/incremental backups every night to another machine on your network. This may be overkill for you, but you should seriously consider it. The bare metal restore process is a little tricky, but a rewarding experience. Lots of upsides over option 2, you just have to do some work (and .. its actually pretty easy). www.bacula.org
4. Customize the ubuntu installer program. I myself have never tried this, but it might do what you want. You'd boot the machine into that purple screen, run through it, and have some custom parts slapped in there at the end that install whatever else you need. Given the need to constantly maintain that (and build / debug / fix it in the first place.. ), I personally could not recommend this over option 3, but it may meet your requirements a little better. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization
5. i'm sure there's more ... anyone
what ever you do - just make sure you test it before you assume you'll be able to restore. smile.gif

Alright, I've tried some stuff, but it was pretty much in vain tongue.gif options I would really consider if I had the time: 2-3-4
I've given remastersys another try...but hell...my 32Gb usb broke in half few months ago, and the image is about 4.4Gb (quite big... and above 4Gb, which is the max capacity of my current usb's). So I haven't got any luck yet. I always had the idea of once creating some sort of program to be able to do this kind of stuff. Everyone loves clean systems. What I really would prefer here, would be a live USB image that's got more than the standard applications...I wonder why ubuntu didn't consider adding that kind of stuff to the standard live usb creator.

it's pretty hard to find decent and performant solutions for this job redface.gif or it's just google who doesn't wanna help me anymore biggrin.gif..
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There's an apt-get command that will dump the list of installed packages. Armed with this (piped into a file), you can use it as input for an "apt-get install" on the new rig, and you'll have a new copy (sans your data though, you'll have to tar that up, or just copy your entire /home directory)

I'll give it a try, might come in handy, though the amount of packages a certain app requieres can become quite high
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