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[Tom's] Battle At $140: Can An APU Beat An Intel CPU And Add-In Graphics?

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What conclusions can be drawn from this data, then? Clearly, the A8-3870K is a better platform for general productivity, particularly when you run threaded applications (or do a lot of multi-tasking) able to leverage four physical cores. The Pentium G620 and discrete Radeon card combine to form a superior gaming system. We used a $140 budget to create as fair of a comparison as possible, but enthusiasts with a little more money to spend on graphics can get even better performance by dedicating additional funds to that subsystem. Meanwhile, the A8-3870K is already AMD's fastest APU, so there's not much room to scale up.

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Very interesting comparison.

I would like to see a similar article when trinity launches, possibly bump the price up a bit and compare then. Hopefully (im pretty sure it will) the trinity will have much stronger graphics on-die, and this should even the tables or maybe even tip them in AMDs favor. But only if piledriver cores dont suck too hard (not convinced) thumb.gif
 
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I wish they overclocked the ram too. They overclocked the gpu by over 50% but didn't touch the memory one bit; in any GPU review that would've been absolutely unacceptable.
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Hmm...pretty uninteresting write-up from Tom's, yet again. Of course for the same cash, the pentium dual core + HD6670 is going to net better gaming performance than a system with a lower-class GPU (integrated or not). The APU's advantage is not having a form-factor limitation, which is why it's gaining such popularity.

I hate it when people blindly berate Tom's reviews and articles, but this one was a pretty absurd example. Were they really reaching for something to do? Oh, I know, let's benchmark a 2500K with Intel HD3k vs. a 2100 + HD7950!
    
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well i got 2 A6 powered laptops (asus K53) for people at work and they love them. spent less than 600 bucks on them after adding a 64GB SSD and they will actually play most games at fair settings crossfired with the 6650M. its such a great budget setup and if trinity isnt a flop i will look into one for my next HTPC.
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Really? An APU will NEVER beat an Intel CPU. I don't even know what the guy writing that article is smoking, must be some really good stuff. An APU is pretty much enough power to do web browsing. Thats about it.
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Really? An APU will NEVER beat an Intel CPU. I don't even know what the guy writing that article is smoking, must be some really good stuff. An APU is pretty much enough power to do web browsing. Thats about it.

Obviously you haven't been looking at the benchmark results for the APUs.
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Tom's has some really biased articles. Really lazy journalism. The only reason they are still around was because they were one of the first tech oriented websites. It is not for their content quality.
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Tom's has some really biased articles. Really lazy journalism. The only reason they are still around was because they were one of the first tech oriented websites. It is not for their content quality.

I really enjoy there reviews! Makes interesting reading!

To each his own!!!!!!!

Show me a site with quality content. All the review sites always listed here are very similar!

When you receive dollars from advertising from all manufacturers, you must thread on thin ice. Honesty is the only thing that may prevent lawsuits and advertising decline!
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Hmm...pretty uninteresting write-up from Tom's, yet again. Of course for the same cash, the pentium dual core + HD6670 is going to net better gaming performance than a system with a lower-class GPU (integrated or not). The APU's advantage is not having a form-factor limitation, which is why it's gaining such popularity.
I hate it when people blindly berate Tom's reviews and articles, but this one was a pretty absurd example. Were they really reaching for something to do? Oh, I know, let's benchmark a 2500K with Intel HD3k vs. a 2100 + HD7950!

Let's not turn this into a "let's bash Tom's thread" please.

I just went through this same debate when building my HTPC, so it is certainly a valid comparison. In the end, an i3 2100 and dedicated card (I got a 6570 low profile) was cheaper and performed on par or better than AMD's strongest APU. It also fits in the same TDP envelope, and gets crushed in any CPU intensive task that runs on 1 or 2 threads, which is what I use it for. The cost I'm referencing included a motherboard as well, which if I'm not mistaken were slightly more expensive than the comparable Intel ITX boards.

As for suggesting the "form factor limitation", you still need a heatsink on the processor that's going to take up some space. A low profile video card isn't going to eat up much more real estate than that heatsink will. Also, I'd say it's pretty generous to overclock the APU too far, at least in my scenario in a mini-itx case (Origen M10), heat would be an issue.


Please show me some examples in a desktop PC setting where the APU has a "form factor" advantage, I'm not sure what you're referring to.
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