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1. Want to upgrade from my HAF 912 to an Arc Midi
2. Remove the stock GPU cooler and replace it with an Accelero Xtreme Plus
3. Replace the fans I have.

Right now I have the stock antec fan for my H2O 620, it seems to be fairly quiet because the RPM is dictated by the temperature, but I have 4 other fans in my case and the total noise of the system seems pretty loud to me. I don't notice it while gaming, but it's annoying while doing school work and watching movies.
Here are my fans:

Two Scythe Kama Flow 2 Extra Fluid Dynamic Bearing 120MM Case Fan 1900RPM 33.8DBA 63.23CFM on intake at the front.

and Two Scythe Slip Stream Kaze Jyuni 120MM Fan 1200RPM 68.5CFM 24DBA one exhausts air at the top, and the other is a side intake fan.

The stock antec fan is exhausting air from the system: Rated Speed: 2,000rpm +/-10%, 81.32 CFM, Max. Static Air Pressure: 3.394 mm-H2O, 27.36 dBA (Max.)

Oddly enough, I think the two slip streams are louder than the Kama Flow, and the antec fan is probably the most quiet. Either way I'm considering two options:

1. replacing the case fans (excluding the antec) with 140mm Fractal Design Fans like the ones that come with the case. This to me seems like the easier option. The fans come with rubber grommets, match the colour scheme, and have sleeved cables, and most importantly they are quiet.

2. Replacing all the fans with gentle typhoons. I was thinking Maybe an AP-29 for the radiator and some AP-15's for the case. Then attaching these fans to a fan controller; I'm considering the FC-6 lamptron. This may be the better option, but the cost for gentle typhoons is roughly double the cost of a FD fan. Plus no rubber grommets. Plus I'd need a fan controller.

Big thanks to all that can offer me suggestions
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get a fan controller, so while your not gaming you can turn the fans down
    
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The accelro xtreme plus for the gpu is a great decision, I have one and my system is silent. For replacing the fans I would simply say get enermax fans, mine are silent, they may be relatively expensive but they're also great.
    
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If I'm not mistaken, the Arc Midi front fans can only be standard 140mm, i.e. not 140mm w/120mm mounts. At least not without some crafty workaround. You may already know this, but fyi just in case. For those slots I would probably use some TY X-Silents, or Enermax T.B. Silence if you don't need much air from them. I'll have a more informed opinion once I take my Arc Midi out of the box.
    
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If I'm not mistaken, the Arc Midi front fans can only be standard 140mm, i.e. not 140mm w/120mm mounts. At least not without some crafty workaround. You may already know this, but fyi just in case. For those slots I would probably use some TY X-Silents, or Enermax T.B. Silence if you don't need much air from them. I'll have a more informed opinion once I take my Arc Midi out of the box.

You're right, at least partially. Here's what fractal design's website says:
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Additional 5 fan slots available for optional fans; one 140mmin front, one 120/140mm in bottom, two 120/140mm in top and one 140/180mm in side panel
Top panel can mount either 3x 120mm fans, 3x 140mm fans or 1x 180mm + 1x 120/140mm fans

so yeah, looks like I'm going to have to go with 140mm. 120 mm only fit in a few areas. Thanks for the suggestions.
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You're right, at least partially. Here's what fractal design's website says:
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Additional 5 fan slots available for optional fans; one 140mmin front, one 120/140mm in bottom, two 120/140mm in top and one 140/180mm in side panel
Top panel can mount either 3x 120mm fans, 3x 140mm fans or 1x 180mm + 1x 120/140mm fans
so yeah, looks like I'm going to have to go with 140mm. 120 mm only fit in a few areas. Thanks for the suggestions.

I'm putting my midi together tomorrow, and I have a selection of fans, so I;ll let you know which seem to work best in those front mounts, at least from my selection. Im gonna go with 120 on top, if I do top fans at all. Much smoother running than 140mm, I find.
    
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If you want Silent Fans get Gelid Wing 12. After going water anything over 1200 RPM is too much for me. The extra cooling performance i get from high speed fans i can achieve with More RADs.
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You're right, at least partially. Here's what fractal design's website says:
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Additional 5 fan slots available for optional fans; one 140mmin front, one 120/140mm in bottom, two 120/140mm in top and one 140/180mm in side panel
Top panel can mount either 3x 120mm fans, 3x 140mm fans or 1x 180mm + 1x 120/140mm fans
so yeah, looks like I'm going to have to go with 140mm. 120 mm only fit in a few areas. Thanks for the suggestions.

ok so I got the midi together. First off, nice case. Very solid, and this is coming from a Lian Li so my standards aren't exactly low. I'll skip the case review, ha.

Fans:
Bottom (floor) intake: Could not fit a 140mm due to my PSU being too big. I found this strange because it's only a 160mm psu. I looked up your psu and it's a little smaller so it may work, because the 140mm fan only barely didn't fit. Instead I put a 120mm Slipstream there. The Fractal site claims you can fit a 170mm psu and still have clearance for 140 or 120mm fan on the bottom, clearly this is not accurate unless I really missed something.

Rear exhaust: TY-140. the 140mm rear exhaust is one of the things that drew me to the Midi. I love it. It really cuts down on the need for top exhaust fans. I removed the top stock fractal fan because it was making no difference in temps, which is often the case with top fans in rigs that use lateral tower coolers (so many people have tops fans when they dont need them). I'm even considering sealing off the top entirely, with acoustic foam, since the two 140s in front, 140rear, and 120 bottom are doing a great job for my setup.

Front: The stock fractal fans werent so great. The top mounted one even clicked, which is not unusual for a horizontal fan with a low quality bearing (of any kind). Kinda surprised they let that pass, but whatever. I replaced the front Fractal with 1-Thermalright X-Silent, and 1-Sharkoon Silent Eagle 140mm. The Eagle is the better fan imo; quieter at the same rpm. Incidentally it also matches the case.

Cool thing is this: I can almost get by with nothing but the bottom intake fan and rear exhaust, even running them a mild rpm (under 900). The bottom fan supplies both my GPU and CPU with fresh air, and the 140mm exhaust is plenty to move it out. I turned off both fronts entirely...saw a 1-2c increase in temps. Basically all they're doing is providing the case with a little more fresh air to work with, so I run them at really low RPM, like 700. Turned the top hdd bay sideways instead of pulling it out.

The TY-140 is probably the best fan of the bunch. I may try to rig something up to make it fit in front. Worst case is I will velcro it with some 3M snaplock, heh. If that works I'll be buying more.
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ok so I got the midi together. First off, nice case. Very solid, and this is coming from a Lian Li so my standards aren't exactly low. I'll skip the case review, ha.
Fans:
Bottom (floor) intake: Could not fit a 140mm due to my PSU being too big. I found this strange because it's only a 160mm psu. I looked up your psu and it's a little smaller so it may work, because the 140mm fan only barely didn't fit. Instead I put a 120mm Slipstream there. The Fractal site claims you can fit a 170mm psu and still have clearance for 140 or 120mm fan on the bottom, clearly this is not accurate unless I really missed something.
Rear exhaust: TY-140. the 140mm rear exhaust is one of the things that drew me to the Midi. I love it. It really cuts down on the need for top exhaust fans. I removed the top stock fractal fan because it was making no difference in temps, which is often the case with top fans in rigs that use lateral tower coolers (so many people have tops fans when they dont need them). I'm even considering sealing off the top entirely, with acoustic foam, since the two 140s in front, 140rear, and 120 bottom are doing a great job for my setup.
Front: The stock fractal fans werent so great. The top mounted one even clicked, which is not unusual for a horizontal fan with a low quality bearing (of any kind). Kinda surprised they let that pass, but whatever. I replaced the front Fractal with 1-Thermalright X-Silent, and 1-Sharkoon Silent Eagle 140mm. The Eagle is the better fan imo; quieter at the same rpm. Incidentally it also matches the case.
Cool thing is this: I can almost get by with nothing but the bottom intake fan and rear exhaust, even running them a mild rpm (under 900). The bottom fan supplies both my GPU and CPU with fresh air, and the 140mm exhaust is plenty to move it out. I turned off both fronts entirely...saw a 1-2c increase in temps. Basically all they're doing is providing the case with a little more fresh air to work with, so I run them at really low RPM, like 700. Turned the top hdd bay sideways instead of pulling it out.
The TY-140 is probably the best fan of the bunch. I may try to rig something up to make it fit in front. Worst case is I will velcro it with some 3M snaplock, heh. If that works I'll be buying more.

thanks for the input! +1.

dont TY-140's have 120mm mounts? How did yyou get it to mount on the rear exhaust?

Also, newegg.ca and ncix (main part stores in canada) don't sell them. They also dont sell the x-silent, and I hevnt checked for the sharkoon. What do you recommend?
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thanks for the input! +1.
dont TY-140's have 120mm mounts? How did yyou get it to mount on the rear exhaust?
Also, newegg.ca and ncix (main part stores in canada) don't sell them. They also dont sell the x-silent, and I hevnt checked for the sharkoon. What do you recommend?

Fractal was friendly enough to put both 140 and 120mm mounting holes on the rear exhaust.smile.gif TY-140 fits perfectly. The only mounts that use the clip-in mechanism are the fronts. Weird note: Careful with the TY. I accidentally came in contact with the blades while tinkering in the case while it was running. Now the TY makes a slight clicking noise, like I threw it off balance. That happened to me once before with a different fan. Dont mess with running fans, ha.

I recommend the Sharkoon over the X-Silent. The Sharkoon was actually rather difficult to find in the U.S. Only one place had it (performance-pc.com). So you may need to hunt around. A fan controller is always a good idea; for instance, at full speed with the controller (which may be overvolting the fan a bit), the sharkoon makes some noise which I cant tell if its the fan or just the way its airflow is interacting with the case..but turning it down ever so slightly stops it. Specs state 800rpm but it actually runs at 850-870, at 800 its great.

Another option for 140mm may be the Prolimatech, but that's secondhand info until mine arrives mon/tues.

Or you can shell out the cash for a Noiseblocker Blacksilent Pro, if they're available in your area. For some reason my edits are only showing under "view history".

Oh and if you can't find any of the above, the Yate Loon D14-SL12 is a good 140, and Yates should be available almost anywhere. Usually it's the smaller, more specialized pc parts retailers that have a better selection of fans (i.e. not Newegg/Amazon/NCIX). Places like Xoxide, Performance PC, Directron..I presume there are equivalent places in CA.
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