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Fractal Define R3 vs NZXT Phantom 410

post #1 of 18
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Hey guys,

I was debating on whether I should get the NZXT Phantom 410 or the Fractal Define R3...which one would you guys go with? I love the way both of the cases look, so putting style aside, I'm mainly looking for amount of cooling options, cooling performance, and amount of slots, space, and wiring options (I want a clean, cool system.). Also, I will be using a 7970 (I'm suspecting it will fit in both, but a review on TechPowerUp said something about the Fractal R3 not being able to hold cards above 30 cm I think). so whaddya guys think? biggrin.gif
post #2 of 18
A reference 7670 is about 11 inches, so it should fit just fine in the R3.

Both cases are pretty equal (or at least there differences are insignificant in a practical sense) when it comes to slots, space, and wiring options. The Phantom wins in terms of front I/O ports, but the R3 has built-in noise dampening.

Since I'm a DIY kinda guy, I would go with the R3 hands down. The simple lines and boxiness of the case allow me maximum flexibility in modding, whether that means recreating the look of the case, or squeezing in as much cooling or esoteric hardware as possible. On the other hand, the Phantom is better equipped for an off-the-shelf water-cooling upgrade with its top fan holes, though its design makes modding it more difficult because you'd have to more-or-less stay within the sharp and defined looks it already sports.

For me, if I had to pick one feature I'm most fond of, it would be the noise canceling in the R3, and for that I'd choose it over the Phantom.
post #3 of 18
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the great post!! Will a R3 fit a Phanteks TC14PE?
Edited by Explicit528 - 8/11/12 at 5:02pm
post #4 of 18
I don't see why not. It doesn't appear to be any taller than most aftermarket 1155 heatsinks.
post #5 of 18
Quote:
I'm mainly looking for amount of cooling options, cooling performance, and amount of slots, space, and wiring options

My choice would be the R3, however the 410 sounds like a better fit in this case. The R3 is good when you are looking for its specific qualities and know exactly how you're going to configure its cooling layout in advance. imo.
    
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post #6 of 18
Phantom 410 95$ all way buddy though the R3 and as for Phanteks PH-TC14PE for 90$ why dont you go with a D14 for 80$or a XSPC Rasa 750 RS240 Universal CPU Water Cooling Kit 117$ redface.gif
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post #7 of 18
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I don't see why not. It doesn't appear to be any taller than most aftermarket 1155 heatsinks.

170mm with fans. It's purty tall. I would get confirmation beforehand from someone who's done it, to be safe.
    
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post #8 of 18
Fractal Define R3

Heatsink Dimension (w/ 2 fans)LxWxH : 159x140x171mm
source
Case Dimension (WxHxD) : 207.40 x 440 x 521.2mm
source
i guess that HSF with fit in R3 though the GPu i doubt

MSI 7970 dimension(HxWxD) : 110 x 32 x 280mm
source
HIS 7970 dimensions (HxWxD) : 126 x 42 x 293mm
source
max GPU clearance : 290mm
source
it will be quiet close

NZXT Phantom 410

Heatsink Dimension (w/ 2 fans)
LxWxH : 159x140x171mm
source
Case Dimensions(W x H x D) : 215 x 516 X 532 mm
source(under specifications)
i guess that HSF with fit in and so will the GPU

MSI 7970 dimension(HxWxD) : 110 x 32 x 280mm
source
HIS 7970 dimensions (HxWxD) : 126 x 42 x 293mm
source
max GPU clearance : 305mm (w/o fan), 280mm (installed), 230mm (full pivot)
source(under specifications )
and the fan means this fan
450
450
so clearly the NZXT has the win smile.gif
Hope that helped thumb.gif
Edited by Tarun - 2/29/12 at 11:02pm
post #9 of 18
Funny, I had to make this same decision yesterday smile.gif. I placed my order for the NZXT Phantom 410 just a few hours ago. I built a rig for my friend with the original Phantom and I really enjoyed working with the case. I especially loved that they left a good inch (not exaggerating) to rout cables in the back.

Also, the Phantom 410 literally fixed all of the flaws of the original Phantom: Added a window, moved fan space lower to accommodate larger HSF's, click door instead of magnetic which sometimes causes the magnet to fall out, added a space for a fan on the bottom, Dual 120/140's on top so one can install a 240/280 rad (original phantom used 200mm fans, so no radiators could be installed), more ventilation holes for better cooling properties, easily removable HDD cage (on the 410 you just press 2 switches and pull it out, on the original you needed to unscrew a bunch of screws), and NZXT removed the very annoying super long screw that needed to be removed on the original Phantom to remove the side panels (you needed to remove 2 regular screws and a very strange long screw).

I would go with the Phantom for sure as it is a much better case than the Fractal Design for both air and water cooling.
post #10 of 18
an ya you can go for a MSi GPU and fit in with the fan it will be exact but the airflow will be great will the fan in front of it thumb.gif
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