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post #11 of 18
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Phantom 410 95$ all way buddy though the R3 and as for Phanteks PH-TC14PE for 90$ why dont you go with a D14 for 80$or a XSPC Rasa 750 RS240 Universal CPU Water Cooling Kit 117$ redface.gif
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Doesn't the Phanteks cooler outperform the D14?
post #12 of 18
yes but investing 100$ on a air cooler rather the 115$ "custom water loop" rolleyes.gif
you can always upgrade to a gpu block and a extra rad if you want and take hat monster under water think about it
here is the link for XSPC Rasa 750 RS240 Universal CPU Water Cooling Kit 117$
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post #13 of 18
I think between the Phantom 410 and the R3 there is no "better" case, because they fulfill different roles.
I do have an R3, which i like very much. It is awesome for a quiet workstation/moderate gaming/server system.

But for an alternative to the Phantom, i think the Fractal Arc Midi is a better choice. It has space for any graphics card or heatsink imaginable, incredible airflow with its multitude of 140mm fans and can accomodate a liquid cooling system without any problems.

[Edit:] I keep hearing bad things about the fans on the Phanteks. They seem to be loud and unreliable. So you might need to invest in other fans on top of the already expensive Phanteks. Considering that, a Noctua D14 or a Thermalright Silver Arrow might be a better choice.
Edited by Stompy - 3/1/12 at 6:14am
post #14 of 18
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[Edit:] I keep hearing bad things about the fans on the Phanteks. They seem to be loud and unreliable. So you might need to invest in other fans on top of the already expensive Phanteks. Considering that, a Noctua D14 or a Thermalright Silver Arrow might be a better choice.
that right the fans of phanteks are garbage :sozo.gif
post #15 of 18
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Mmk so I've replaced the phanteks with the D14, and I'm guessing the final answer is the Phantom 410, right?
post #16 of 18
i would suggest you a XSPC Rasa 750 RS240 Universal CPU Water Cooling Kit 117$ a worth investment in which you can add many things like Gpu NB motherboard ,etc and it will look neat and cool to biggrin.gif
post #17 of 18
i would say fractal design r3, but thats because i own 1. its not to big store alot of stuff and cabel managment is cool. i dont know about the other case. so i can't really say anything. smile.gif
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post #18 of 18
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Funny, I had to make this same decision yesterday smile.gif. I placed my order for the NZXT Phantom 410 just a few hours ago. I built a rig for my friend with the original Phantom and I really enjoyed working with the case. I especially loved that they left a good inch (not exaggerating) to rout cables in the back.
Also, the Phantom 410 literally fixed all of the flaws of the original Phantom: Added a window, moved fan space lower to accommodate larger HSF's, click door instead of magnetic which sometimes causes the magnet to fall out, added a space for a fan on the bottom, Dual 120/140's on top so one can install a 240/280 rad (original phantom used 200mm fans, so no radiators could be installed), more ventilation holes for better cooling properties, easily removable HDD cage (on the 410 you just press 2 switches and pull it out, on the original you needed to unscrew a bunch of screws), and NZXT removed the very annoying super long screw that needed to be removed on the original Phantom to remove the side panels (you needed to remove 2 regular screws and a very strange long screw).
I would go with the Phantom for sure as it is a much better case than the Fractal Design for both air and water cooling.

The long middle screw is spring loaded...you press it down and it clears the notches holding the panel onto the chassis.
    
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