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I don't think you fully understand what we are doing in this project. Nothing is physical. At all. Everything is in Packet Tracer and VMWare. None of this project is actually "for real". We already know what routers, switches, firewalls, APs, everything, we already know how we are going to set it up and what we are going to get, and they are the ones that are listed in the latest version of Packet Tracer, which I believe is like 5.3.2 or something like that. We've already thought ahead a good bit so we would be a little ahead of the group, so when the time comes, we already have a rough draft.
Again, everything is physically virtual, if that makes sense. It's all physical hardware, but in a virtual world, and that is Packet Tracer. BUT we still need to know what hardware would go in Packet Tracer just to prepare ourselves for when in the real world, we create the real networks we just created in Packet Tracer.
We just aren't at that step yet. We are about a month away. That doesn't mean we shouldn't be building around that though, but this project just isn't THAT deep.

Wow ok, then it's nothing like my capstone project. We are physically designing and implementing. I do feel sorry for you having to do this all in packet tracer, I despise that program and I hated every day I had to use it for my cisco classes. Thankfully we were able to do all of our labs on real equipment.

So for my clarification, do you all have to submit a proposal for a bid? We had to and each groups proposal was evaluated by CIO's and CTO's from our business community. they also provided feedback on the feasibility of the proposal.
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Wow ok, then it's nothing like my capstone project. We are physically designing and implementing. I do feel sorry for you having to do this all in packet tracer, I despise that program and I hated every day I had to use it for my cisco classes. Thankfully we were able to do all of our labs on real equipment.
So for my clarification, do you all have to submit a proposal for a bid? We had to and each groups proposal was evaluated by CIO's and CTO's from our business community. they also provided feedback on the feasibility of the proposal.

Well, on this scale of a project, we pretty much are limited to Packet Tracer. I'm not sure what your project was, but ours with we have to design a logo for the company, then the website for it. Then we have to make the website functional for registration and viewing. We then have to create a database for the company, and that varies for whatever company whatever group has. Then we have to create a Packet Tracer with the fake network, make sure everything can talk across all APs, routers, switches, everything. Then we implement the servers into VMWare and setup the policies and basically combine everything. Link the database to the website using what we did in Packet Tracer.

Our group has about 30 people in it.

Throughout my entire college years though, we actually have had real equipment to work on. Just on something THIS big of a scale, Packet Tracer would be easier to track and grade for the instructors.

In the end, whenever this entire thing is done, each group will present infront of the entire networking/programming/graphical design team of teachers, the dean of the college, and as well as the head of the company we are doing this for.

AND THEN WE GRADUATE!
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Dude, do not build PCs yourself. Buy from Dell or HP where they have support and warranties on everything in the computers. Building them yourselves would be an extreme headache in the long run. If a part dies, you have to send it into the manufacturer and that can be a pain as we all know here. An employee cannot be without their workstation for more than a day so that is not an option. Even if you buy warranties through newegg, its still not worth it to do it on every component. With a Dell or HP business account, they will ship the replacement part same business day with overnight shipping.

Dont make the mistake and build all the PCs yourself, even for just the CAD users.
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Dude, do not build PCs yourself. Buy from Dell or HP where they have support and warranties on everything in the computers. Building them yourselves would be an extreme headache in the long run. If a part dies, you have to send it into the manufacturer and that can be a pain as we all know here. An employee cannot be without their workstation for more than a day so that is not an option. Even if you buy warranties through newegg, its still not worth it to do it on every component. With a Dell or HP business account, they will ship the replacement part same business day with overnight shipping.
Dont make the mistake and build all the PCs yourself, even for just the CAD users.

We have to follow the directions the instructor has told us man, haha. Again, this is NOT FOR REAL. We are not physically building anything.

He wants us to pick out parts that would do exactly what our company wants to do though so we can have some experience with picking parts. I already know what I'm getting in the main workstations and the normal workstations now folks.

I just need to figure out now what to get for a server.

I was thinking of putting about 12x3TB HDDs in RAID6 in our server, and just have that. Not have a dedicated NAS just for storage, but just have an all-in-one server.
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so you have to use packet tracer!!! i know what its like and good for basic stuff.. (so glad i build a real personal network on vritualaization lab)
anyway, i recall you said you had access to real cisco gear during your studies, is it possible to get a copy of the IOS form different devices and use GNS3 emulator? then you are not limited to cmds supported by packet tracer, which may not affect you but atleas with GNS3 your only limited by the IOS version smile.gif
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