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Viewing angle is more important than you think. If you're not perfectly in line with a TN panel, the colors will be way off. Even something as simple as reclining back in my chair would throw the colors off. Plus, the difference in image quality is very noticeable. 120Hz won't make me a better gamer, but the color accuracy of IPS panels makes everything look better and allows me to get much more accurate colors on my photo prints. Can't beat the Dell Premium Panel warranty service either.
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Originally Posted by Phantom_Dave View Post

I couldn't care less about the debate between IPS and TN. I like my TN just fine and have no reason to want to switch. The lack of 120Hz is the end of any debate for me in any case.
I do wonder why people bring up viewing angles though. I don't know about everyone else, but my screens are always directly in front of me when I'm using them. There is no viewing angle problem. Perhaps if I were using my TN as a television in the living room it "might" become an issue... but even reclining in my chair at the computer desk does not cause an issue. Perhaps some people need a different desk or chair?

Most of these monitors have stand adjustments, and in Portrait mode, YOU REALLY NOTICE the difference. Stand adjustments are a real plus to these monitors, I hardly ever go back to landscape unless playing a game. Usually just stick to portrait, reading and document editing is a far more pleasant experience.
     
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I'll take any IPS panel monitors over TN garbage any day.
 
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post #14 of 39
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/

Do this test on both screens. You'll see just how much better the response times of a 120hz monitor are.

You'll also see how much better U2711 in most all the other tests.


And for those who brought up viewing angles, do the viewing angle test.


EDIT: Also, someone should loan you an FW900. If gaming smoothness is what you're into, comparing a CRT to any LCD just isn't fair.
Edited by brucethemoose - 2/29/12 at 7:30pm
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post #15 of 39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ZealotKi11er View Post

U2711 comes already calibrated from factory and there is s test report printout they give you. You can do better but its much better calibrated then average LCDs.
Edit: Its a expensive Monitor. I would not take ur opinion. If i did that 1 week take i would do what ever it takes not to like his monitor because you know in the end of the week you will get urs back and face it everyone brags about their own stuff. I dont give a dam about my U2711. If there is something better for my need i would have this gone in seconds.

Yep, you got me. I totally wanted to brag about my refurb Asus and make the dell seem bad, because I'm not allowed to form my own opinion on something due to its increased cost compared to what I already have. rolleyes.gif
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Originally Posted by De-Zant View Post

Which mode are you running it on? IIRC, on the ultrasharp line (wide gamut models, at least), only sRGB and custom presets allow you to run in sRGB emulation mode. If you're using anything else, you'll get oversaturated reds and greens. If you complain about oversaturation, that's the first thing you should check.

I am running in sRGB mode, and I did spend quite a while trying to get the custom presets to a point where I liked it. The best I could get was with 80% brightness and 40% contrast but it still was a real pain to look at on the desktop. In games its really not as noticeable if everything is in motion. Trying to read is what was getting me. The desktop seems reddish to me, but I couldn't find an option for what the color temperature is set at (it looks like 6000-6500k).

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Originally Posted by brucethemoose View Post

http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/
Do this test on both screens. You'll see just how much better the response times of a 120hz monitor are.
You'll also see how much better U2711 in most all the other tests.
And for those who brought up viewing angles, do the viewing angle test.
EDIT: Also, someone should loan you an FW900. If gaming smoothness is what you're into, comparing a CRT to any LCD just isn't fair.


I've already owned an FW900 a few years ago, I sold it because it was just too big to keep moving around with. I gamed on CRT's for a long time, sometimes I wish I still had one but then I remember how bulky they are and realize I would have no space on my desk.


Anyway, I guess I am alone in disliking this screen. I would much rather run 120hz surround for the price of one of these I think, I just can't seem to get used to it.
post #16 of 39
What I really dislike about my monitor is the AG coating. I wish it better with response and colors (coming from my CRT, both were issues), but I'd put up with them for the better colors/viewing angles over a TN panel. It's the AG coating that gets me most.
post #17 of 39
On thing I've found is that colors seem to be "different" more than the same plus better across different monitor types/models, and the extra factors like the color settings, AG coating or glossy, etc., etc., seem to expound the issue. The you have the matter of us being used to what we've come to know.
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Originally Posted by De-Zant View Post

IIRC, on the ultrasharp line (wide gamut models, at least), only sRGB and custom presets allow you to run in sRGB emulation mode.
Can/do you confirm that this applies to the custom color mode? I've only heard this applies to the two sRGB modes.
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Originally Posted by Scorpion49 View Post

I am running in sRGB mode, and I did spend quite a while trying to get the custom presets to a point where I liked it. The best I could get was with 80% brightness and 40% contrast but it still was a real pain to look at on the desktop. In games its really not as noticeable if everything is in motion. Trying to read is what was getting me. The desktop seems reddish to me, but I couldn't find an option for what the color temperature is set at (it looks like 6000-6500k).
Maybe it has color tinting? This is an issue with many of the LG IPS screens, and consequently, the Dell UltraSharps, it seems.

The color temperature can be seen via the service menu.
Edited by Princess Garnet - 2/29/12 at 11:30pm
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Originally Posted by Remix65 View Post

it'd be nice to hear from both of you when you get back your monitors lol.

+1 lol.

After using this resolution, anything below it seems like I'm missing out on the big picture. Though I'm sure 120Hz is nice, I don't have an issue in games at all.
post #19 of 39
Monitors are a lot about personal taste. Different things are important to different people. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and this is a pretty fun idea that you and your friend had. You have your opinion based on your experience and I respect that. I own a U3011 and what I love about it are the vibrant colors, high resolution, and great viewing angles. Everything just looks gorgeous on this display and the screen realistate the high resolution offers is extremely handy for multitasking. Coming from a Samsung 22" 1680x1050 TN LCD to my U3011 was night and day.
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Most monitors you get are calibrated way too cool. You are probably used to a much higher color temp for whites than is "correct."
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