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Hey Guys,

So, I finally got a nice little setup going on at my place:
50" LG Plasma
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KEF C5 Bookshelf & Center speakers
BIC America F12 Subwoofer
VZ Fios
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I just got my subwoofer yesterday but I am not getting the sound I was hoping for out of it (yet).

I am VERY new to HT audio. I did the Yamaha YPAO audio setup. Turned the crossover all the way up on the sub (as instructed), enabled the sub on the receiver, and thats about it. I dont feel like the sub is taking over enough. I want it to handle more of the subtle low tone sounds.

Is there anyway to refine the sound better? Is there anything I should do on my HTPC to make sure its configured correctly? I remember something about pass through via HDMI. There are also settings in XBMC that confuse the heck out of me.

Media: I am playing bluray via MKV.

What should I do to optimize the sound for my setup?

Thanks all!
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Is it everything not sounding great or just your mkv's? They do compress the audio in mkv's, so that may be the issue. Do you have a bluray or something with uncompressed sound?

I know listening to a ripped dvd or mkv never sounds as good as a proper bluray. A great bluray resource is the THX setup on the T2 bluray, it has a great bass sweep test.
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Have you tried increasing the gain on the sub?? You said you cranked the crossover, to let the receiver do the work, but what about the gain?? Also what did the receiver set its sub out crossover to?
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Have you tried increasing the gain on the sub?? You said you cranked the crossover, to let the receiver do the work, but what about the gain?? Also what did the receiver set its sub out crossover to?

I have my f12 crossed over @ 80hz. Which build of XBMC are you using? Are any of your tracks DTS-HD/TrueHD or just DTS/AC3? I would grab a bunch of test tones and load them up in XBMC.

If the sub is going but just not hard enough turn the gain up a little bit. When I run the setup on my Onkyo I turn the gain to 5 and run the setup, then I play a few test tones between 80 and 30hz and adjust the gain up or down on the sub not the receiver.

On a side note I have never seen a DTS/AC3 track compressed (yes I know they are compressed but they don't downsample it more) but the DTS/AC3 (lossy) track extracted from the DTS-HD/TrueHD (lossless) track.

And I can't wait to move my F12 upstairs when I build my Tuba HT sub this spring!
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Originally Posted by Rambleon84 View Post

Is it everything not sounding great or just your mkv's? They do compress the audio in mkv's, so that may be the issue. Do you have a bluray or something with uncompressed sound?
I know listening to a ripped dvd or mkv never sounds as good as a proper bluray. A great bluray resource is the THX setup on the T2 bluray, it has a great bass sweep test.
The media itself is high quality. I just think its the way I have it setup.
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Have you tried increasing the gain on the sub?? You said you cranked the crossover, to let the receiver do the work, but what about the gain?? Also what did the receiver set its sub out crossover to?
The gain is at 4 I believe, its one notch below half way (thats what Yamaha user manual told me to do). The crossover is set to 60hz.
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I have my f12 crossed over @ 80hz. Which build of XBMC are you using? Are any of your tracks DTS-HD/TrueHD or just DTS/AC3? I would grab a bunch of test tones and load them up in XBMC.
If the sub is going but just not hard enough turn the gain up a little bit. When I run the setup on my Onkyo I turn the gain to 5 and run the setup, then I play a few test tones between 80 and 30hz and adjust the gain up or down on the sub not the receiver.
On a side note I have never seen a DTS/AC3 track compressed (yes I know they are compressed but they don't downsample it more) but the DTS/AC3 (lossy) track extracted from the DTS-HD/TrueHD (lossless) track.
And I can't wait to move my F12 upstairs when I build my Tuba HT sub this spring!
I don't know which build of XBMC I am using... how do you find out? Not like there is an about section haha. I've noticed that when I set the audio settings to HDMI (from XBMC), my receiver displays DTS. So I am assuming I am using DTS on most all of my tracks. Not sure if they are AC3 or TrueHD.

On my receiver, what should I set the decoder to, straight/direct, Pro Logic II, PLII Movie, Game, Music... NEO... good grief, there are so many settings!
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I don't know which build of XBMC I am using... how do you find out? Not like there is an about section haha. I've noticed that when I set the audio settings to HDMI (from XBMC), my receiver displays DTS. So I am assuming I am using DTS on most all of my tracks. Not sure if they are AC3 or TrueHD.
On my receiver, what should I set the decoder to, straight/direct, Pro Logic II, PLII Movie, Game, Music... NEO... good grief, there are so many settings!
In XBMC go to System -> System Info
Your receiver won't change the format so whatever lights up is what the MKV has in (when you are browsing your library in XBMC it should tell you which audio format it is).
If any of your movies have DTS-HD or TrueHD you will need a special build of XBMC like this.
As for which mode...you can try the home audio forum here but over at AVSforum you may get more input. I would just say play with them all (except mono, stereo and all channel stereo smile.gif and see which one you like the most) but PLII movie will probably be your favorite.
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Screw yamaha, play with gain, and placement of the sub till you get it to sound how you like.

and as previously stated set the receiver and sub to 80hz crossover, adjust it down if needed. But serious;ly stop using the auto calibration, get a meter and do it yourself. With the sub, its all about how you like the sound, calibrate the surround the same way.
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In XBMC go to System -> System Info
Your receiver won't change the format so whatever lights up is what the MKV has in (when you are browsing your library in XBMC it should tell you which audio format it is).
If any of your movies have DTS-HD or TrueHD you will need a special build of XBMC like this.
As for which mode...you can try the home audio forum here but over at AVSforum you may get more input. I would just say play with them all (except mono, stereo and all channel stereo smile.gif and see which one you like the most) but PLII movie will probably be your favorite.
Thanks, I'll check that out when I get some time tonight. Thanks for the advice.
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Screw yamaha, play with gain, and placement of the sub till you get it to sound how you like.
and as previously stated set the receiver and sub to 80hz crossover, adjust it down if needed. But serious;ly stop using the auto calibration, get a meter and do it yourself. With the sub, its all about how you like the sound, calibrate the surround the same way.
I don't mind doing that, but I need a tutorial/how to guide somewhere to learn how to do that right. Also, I'm unfortunately missing rear speakers. I am in a apt also w/ cardboard walls...

Yeah, I bought a sub...with cardboard walls/ceilings! Couldn't handle bassless sound.

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So, after a couple of days of use, the sub is nice. I still have to optimize the crossover better so it takes over more often, but I think I may have overdone it on this one. The sub is HUGE. My apartment is rather large, but this is definitely overkill. I will have to admit, I didn't think this one through all the way. Woops!

The reason why I chose a 12" was because 12" subs hit lower lows (in general). I figured, that should provide me with better all around sound, even if I keep it on low. I just didn't think this thing would be the size of a mini fridge!
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