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Originally Posted by thrasherht View Post

I have seen plenty of people brag about how SSDs far out last mechanical hard drives. But I have yet to see this amazing life span.

Million hours of life and all that? I heard that too when they were just coming out.


Question for you op, two years is actually acceptable in my book. It depends on how it used. Did you write to it a lot? That murders SSD's. Also your power supply can slowly kill an SSD if it's mildly unstable with voltages.
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Flash media has that kind of shelf life (i think it is actually hundreds of thousands). Shelf life means it is sitting there collecting dust on a shelf not plugged in to anything (The actual time it takes for the parts to physically degrade and break down).
Otherwise they have read/write cycle limitations. Which I believe the average i hear quoted is 3-5 years.

so my thought is that people got shelf life and life span confused with SSDs.
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You can't judge a company by one occurence. If you metion OCZ SSDs anywhere in here, you'll immediately get 4-5 posts to tell you that they all die, they're unreliable and will kill your first born. Yet I have 4 of them that defy the odds and work fine with not a single problem.
Any piece of hardware can end up dying early, and you'll find threads upon threads about someone's displeasure with almost any piece of hardware you can imagine, and they'll flame the manufacturer and write paragraphs of displeasure. The problem with that is, people who are happy don't make threads. People who are unhappy make them, and that's the one you'll see while thousands or more can be having no problem at all.
The M4 has a large following here and you shouldn't feel uneasy about using Crucial again. It's honestly surprising to me that SSDs are doing as well as they are with the newness of the tech and the crazy rapid growth of sales/production.

I'll agree, people complain but never make threads when happy.
I did say that I was happy with the performance and using a HD in its absence is so noticable that I wish to get another. From reading I kind of got that OCZ was frowned on and that there would be no use in asking, that the M4 was the favorite. I just want to know that Crucial owners believe enough in the product that at least if their's went bad today that they wouldn't hesitate to buy another or would they give another brand any thought. It's easier say when it hasn't happened yet. But most people have experienced failure of SSD's, HD's and other components.
post #14 of 18
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so my thought is that people got shelf life and life span confused with SSDs.

Maybe. It was probably misinterpreted marketing.

Sure an SSD can probably stay powered on for millions of hours if it isn't being written to. However if you do write and read a considerable amount of data it wouldn't really matter how long the hardware can handle being powered on because the memory chips themselves exhaust their read/write limits\
     
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Million hours of life and all that? I heard that too when they were just coming out.
Question for you op, two years is actually acceptable in my book. It depends on how it used. Did you write to it a lot? That murders SSD's. Also your power supply can slowly kill an SSD if it's mildly unstable with voltages.

That's one of the problems I found researching is that I have seen life expectancy for SSD all over the place. One article acts like they should last for years and years like they are imortal and another will conflict with a small span like 2 years if that long. Honestly I would consider an electronic device that doesn't last but one or two years as "disposable" My SSD lasted about 2 yrs. I would consider having to transfer data to a new SSD at 1 or 2 yrs as maintenance if that is all they last.. I have many Program Logic Control units where I work which, are solid state devices and some can last well over a decade. I'm not going to pretend I know really whats inside a PLC or SSD but if a PLC can function in an industrial environment surely they can get SSD to last more than 2 yrs. I would hope.

I read alot of threads about how to tweak and set up SSD to last longer. I set mine up to hold the OS and games basically and used a standard HD for storage. I had system tools like defrag off. The things I read which I noticed I did was the hibernation mode was active and system restore., but I'm not sure how much they bother it.. I also don't run PC continuos, it gets shut down about everyday. I'm sure I 'll pay more attention when setting up a new SSD.
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I'll agree, people complain but never make threads when happy.
I did say that I was happy with the performance and using a HD in its absence is so noticable that I wish to get another. From reading I kind of got that OCZ was frowned on and that there would be no use in asking, that the M4 was the favorite. I just want to know that Crucial owners believe enough in the product that at least if their's went bad today that they wouldn't hesitate to buy another or would they give another brand any thought. It's easier say when it hasn't happened yet. But most people have experienced failure of SSD's, HD's and other components.

I'd get a new M4 from Crucial if mine died. Sometimes parts die, even if it's only one in a large batch. You can be the one to get the faulty one or the one not up to par, or you can end up doing something damaging to the part without knowing it.
Like the others said, if you did a lot of writing and reading you could've used up all of what your SSD had. I'm pretty sure older SSD's had even smaller number of read/write cycles it could go through before dying.
Newer ones (like SATA III) have really outpaced the older generations by a large margin in both speed and durability. OCZ's (and probably all of the newer Sandforce SSD's in general) got a bad reputation, and personally I wouldn't go with them because I've heard more good than bad.
Intel, Crucial, and Samsung all have the most reliable (and arguably fastest) SSD's right now. If you really enjoyed your previous Crucial SSD, I see no reason to avoid getting the M4. thumb.gif
 
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post #17 of 18
the way i see it is this. An engine in a car can last over 200k miles in a lot of cases, which comes to roughly 4400 hours of use, which is figured at 45mph being average speed of the vehical.

If you use an average of 2k RPM for that motor. That comes to 528million strokes that each piston does. You have to remember that is a large chunk of metal moving up and down at 33 times a seconds, that is a lot of abuse. Why can't they build electronics that can withstand a few million read/write cycles? They can build mechanical stuff to withstand that much, why not electronics.

OP, I would go with the M4, I have heard far more good stuff on that drive then bad stuff. So if you want to stick with an SSD, seems like a good choice.
post #18 of 18
My 1st SSD was a Kingston 64 Now+ and it died within 4months of normal uses, for no apparent reason... I RMA it and got a brand new one over a year ago and it never game me any problem, might have been a faulthy one, i guess it happens even in the best familys!
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