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You need to stop with this off-topic bickering. You and this "birdman" are threadcrapping this thread to death. OMG AC is/is not like Splinter Cell and MSG WHO CARES. You've made your "point" 20x over and it's seriously beating a dead horse now.

Off-topic? We're talking about the next AC. How is that off topic? You're not a mod so stop trying to call people out like you are one. Per TOS, don't post while trying to cite/complain about TOS being broken, report and move on.

Maybe you should put your big boy pants on and stop whining so much. We've actually contributed to this thread unlike your call to have the mods come wipe your nose and behind.

And if you don't care, DON'T POST HERE.
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Am i the only one thinking that he could just, you know, blend in? Like wear a business suit or some other clothing that induces trust and respect, somewhat like hitman? The whole concept of the clothing in the original AC was that altair could blend in with the monks, who were generally beyond suspicion. The biggest threat to him imho is face detection, but maybe they can do some sort of advanced face alteration, or access and delete his records from Abstergo's database. As for the detection towers, I could see them as the modern borgia tower. Get in it's vicinity, and the chances of you being spotted by the guards goes up. But once you've sabotaged the tower, the area is yours:)

Business suit idea is pretty nice, from AC2 onwards i'm sure he could blend with any group. Problem with the idea of sabotaging the tower is, the radio towers could go through almost anything, and they said it was from sun-up, so you'd have to think he'd need to sabotage them either at night, or under his suit he'd have some form or armour/clothing with made him invisible from the detection. I'd also love for them to take like all the current weapons, but make them their own modern versions. Crossbow with electric bolts, which would short-circuit Abstergos armour or something awesome like that tongue.gif

Oh who cares, i'll buy all of Assassins Creed anyway. tongue.gif
    
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The only resaon why i suggested a nano suit is that modern assassins would have to deal with modern police & private security. In Revelations the most we had to deal with was muskets and even then 2 or 3 shots will kill you and this was Ezio we're talking about AND Ezio had tons of armor on.
So the problem remains how do you give a CQC assasin equal footing with a city full of cops and security who use automatic handguns, shotguns and ARs? Its either you give him a suit that gives him some protection, you give him guns too or you give him the ability to just eat a ridiculous amount of bullets.
I'm not suggesting a huge Crysis nano suit or an even more massive Halo suit. I'm suggesting a MGS-like suit that would be worn under clothes. Something that's slim, provides trauma support and is about as bulletproof as Batman/Solid Snake's suit. Maybe it could do some basic camo like solid snake's but i wouldn't want it doing complete cloaking.

One would assume that like Ezio and Altair, the templars would not attack him unless he does something illegal or suspicious. As i said, maybe they could alter his face or delete facial traits and pictures from Abstergos database. Imo that would be a requirement for it to even resemble the way AC and AC2 worked.
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Ok I’ll try.
IIRC, they briefly state that they slipped through customs with Desmond or something like that during one of the cutscenes where Desmond hears the other assassin’s talking when he is still plugged into the animus.
I don’t remember them mentioning a specific country that they end up at the end
They believe that the Templars have massive amounts of control because they have massive companies with political ties and their parent company manufactures EVERYTHING. Meanwhile the Assassins hide in makeshift towns, off the grid.
The Templars don’t completely rule everything but they do have major influence. There is a huge difference.
Abstergo. And the Templars like fronts because they like to remain behind the scenes. People resist overt attempts at control and the Templars know this. This is why they used the Vatican as a front for their operations in AC2/Brotherhood.
Hope I didn’t give any spoliers.

Thanks, that post pretty much covered everything I asked for, +rep for you!
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[Kotaku] Is This the Star of Assassin

Where is woman assassin? Oh I forgot... Until the the liberation movement in the 60's. They couldn't get out of the kitchen XD maybe next one AC in modern day.

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Well you started quoting wiki links about hassan, I honestly wasnt sure if you were trying to say that the events in the first one were based on historical facts, and therefore the others should too.

Look Bud, sorry if I am offending you some how but I think we got off on the wrong foot there. From what I understand you wanted to learn more about the story. I am quite a fan of these games have played these games since the first AC came out, So I thought I will be as detail as I can about the whole thing. Hassan Ibn Sabah Is more so a Religious figure to a lot us, born in Persia and died in Syria, He Played a very important part in the crusades and also the founder of the Hassasin Order = Followers of Hassan that carried our thousands of assassinations during the crusades. Look it up any where you like, no speculations on this. On the game Assassins Creed he is simply refereed as Al Mualim translation from Arabic Al = The, Muallim = Teacher. The Teacher / Master. The Character they based Altair on was probably one of his favorite student.

The Whole Series is based around Hassan Ibn Sabah's Hassassin Sect which in english is called the Assassin Order, even the word directly comes from there. The Apple was inspired from a glowing round object that some "Local Stories" suggested was seen with Hassan when he and his student would go on walks during sometimes in the night. The Templar are also based on what is / was a real order, Heard of the Knights Templar?

No speculations, just telling you about the origins of this game.

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Im being ignorant? Coming from the person who is saying that the story for the 3rd one is going to be completely wrong based on previous games, despite not even having played the last game....

Yes, kind of. You jumped the gun and misunderstood what I was saying, you brought up some things about Da Vinci out of nowhere and that Da Vinci Movie (which I haven't watched yet). You said I was speculating and trying to convince you something about Assassins Creed 2 tongue.gif I wasn't saying that, all I was doing was just telling you what Ubisott's story follows and everything I know about the game and its origins, not speculation, and also the whole games "Present part with Desmond" took place in the Italy / France Region hence they drive around from one place to another, not really america. which you also dismissed. redface.gif
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How so? Like I said, Ubi said that you would see him develop into the ultimate assassin, nowhere does it say "you will play as desmond as the ultimate assassin". From what you've said, it sounds to me like you expected this game would be all about Desmond.

I dont know how to put this Bud. But I assure you Its not just me, I have been reading so many threads, stories, gossips and Ubisoft's forums and their wikis, it really did suggest to a lot of us that 2012 will be when we actually "Play as Desmond, Hunting one of the many Apples of Edens, and trying to stop the templars." Have you played the first game? then the second game and the two spinoffs Chronologically or just started off from the second game or brotherhood for the cool action like so many newbie fans?
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Just because the game is out this year, doesnt mean it will cover everything leading up to 2012 in the game, for all we know, the timeline within AC3 could only be over a couple of days outside the animus, leaving plenty of room for several more games to lead up to the final even in 2012.

They generally would never do that, they might extend the 2012 plot but they wont do that. it doesn't work like that in the assassins creed universe, they wont show you play through the past other than using the animus to access ancestors memories, they only show the present during the present times or near future. What they will do is probably extend the "Templar agents destroy the world" plot to 2013 and let us play through 2013. but 99% sure not back in 2012. smile.gif
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despite not even having played the last game....

I am on ocn and I play games, do you think I intentionally stopped playing one of my favorite series? the last 6 months I have been after EVGA trying to get my Graphics cards replaced, I had to RMA 3 times (look at my posts on the EVGA RMA topic on OCN). So yes, I have only played up to Brotherhood, But can you really blame me? Sad Remark bud, sad remark frown.gif
Edited by TheBirdman74 - 3/7/12 at 6:13am
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Why do I keep talking about crysis? Why do YOU keep talking about crysis!!?!?! I didnt start talking about it, you did with all your assumptions and jumping to conclusions! I specifically mentioned MGS nano which is nothing more than a slightly more advanced sneaking suit.
Stop talking about Splinter Cell. They're completely different gameplays. I want an Assassin to have, at max, 1 gun. If your sneaking around fails in Splinter Cell, you have all types of grenade launchers, ARs and high tech gadgets. I proposed 1 high tech suit with a continuation of CQC. You propose an entire change of AC to copy Splinter Cell.


Bud, look you said The Nano Suite, I haven't even Played MGS in like a Decade, And I dont remember Snakes suite being called a Nano Suite. Would you remember every minor detail after 10 years - 12 years? I just gave Splinter Cell as an Example, Grenade Launchers? What is this? Delta Force? Have You even played the whole Splinter Cell series? You would almost always uses the Silenced Pistol or Try To Keep a low proifle an take out everyone silently. What is a High Tech Gadget? Is a EMP Gun a High tech weapon? It shuts off electonic devices and lights, could be a great addon for Desmond.

Dont get me wrong I dont want Assassins Creed to Be Splinter Cell, But you seem to be Promoting MGS a lot more.

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You're gonna want to actually READ what people write before you respond b/c your point is null & void

Yes I read them, even tho your nasty avatar does a good job of distracting me. Do you?

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Dear jesus, stop with the splinter cell worship
Seriously you gotta be trollin

Good God! Would you practice what you preach and stop with the Metal Gear Solid worship? I wouldn't mind it it was Snake from Escape from New york or LA but...
Nice way to deflect my point tho Bud thumb.gif

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You need to stop with this off-topic bickering. You and this "birdman" are threadcrapping this thread to death. OMG AC is/is not like Splinter Cell and MSG WHO CARES. You've made your "point" 20x over and it's seriously beating a dead horse now.

I wonder if You, Will and Ted would just leave us alone and let us Discuss this issue? Like FuNkDrSpOt say's maybe its you who should move on? But then again, I see your point. Neither one of us are promoting Splinter Cell or MGS. We are just using them as an example or at least I was. wink.gif But maybe its time I'd just rather stop.
Edited by TheBirdman74 - 3/7/12 at 6:40am
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Bud, look you said The Nano Suite,
I said specifically Solid Snake's nano
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I haven't even Played MGS in like a Decade, And I dont remember Snakes suite being called a Nano Suite. Would you remember every minor detail after 10 years - 12 years?
Don't blame me for your ignorance. The nano in MGS 4 is displayed pretty prominently. It's the primary means by which a senior citizen Snake can still fight. Next time admit you don't know what the other person is saying before jumping to conclusions. If you had played MGS 4 you probably won't even be arguing with me as Splinter Cell is very similar to MGS in gameplay.
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I just gave Splinter Cell as an Example, Grenade Launchers? What is this? Delta Force? Have You even played the whole Splinter Cell series? You would almost always uses the Silenced Pistol or Try To Keep a low proifle an take out everyone silently.
I've gone over this before.

Splinter Cell = Lone agent infiltrating a base using GUNS
AC = Lone agent in huge city using CQC

Yes, they both use stealth as a theme but at their core they are quite different games in 2 completely separate environments with 2 completely different sets of circumstances. Your examples of what you can accomplish in Splinter Cell just simply aren't valid b/c it's literally comparing apples and oranges.
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What is a High Tech Gadget? Is a EMP Gun a High tech weapon? It shuts off electonic devices and lights, could be a great addon for Desmond.

LoL yes an EMP gun is a high tech weapon!
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Dont get me wrong I dont want Assassins Creed to Be Splinter Cell, But you seem to be Promoting MGS a lot more.

No sir, if you take a moment to reread what I have said, i'm not promoting AC to be MGS, I'm simply saying it could make do with one of the items from MGS in order to make a modern AC seem more....plausible.
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Yes I read them, even tho your nasty avatar does a good job of distracting me. Do you?

My 'nasty avatar'? Clarify.

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ood God! Would you practice what you preach and stop with the Metal Gear Solid worship? Nice way to deflect my point tho Bud thumb.gif

It's points you make like this that show that you're not reading or you have bad reading comprehension.

I love MGS but nowhere in any of my posts did you see me say once that AC should mimic MGS's gameplay. I'm not using MGS as an example either. I simply talked about a nanosuit as a plot device that would make the storyline more believable while keeping the CQC/stealth aspect of AC alive in a modern setting.
    
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