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Absolutely I agree, Thats what I was meaning by Nano suite, not something like The Nano "Rambo" Suite but something like Sam Fisher or Batman maybe. I think If they had picked Modern day Istanbul for the Third game as in AC3 that would see Desmond as the Ultimate Assassin It could be very do able, they could make the American Revolution as Expansion like Brotherhood or Revelations, an Expansion that they could continue with after finishing AC3 in 2012 as said and promised. And it could start its own Spin off exploring Desmond's or better yet, another assassins memories, Subject XX? But I know they already sold out or screwed that possibility, If they release the American Revolution this year (2012) then the one where Desmond gets to be the Assassin in Modern times and stop the templars from causing 2012 will have to be scraped and come out in 2013 or some later date. frown.gif

I didn't even play the first Assassins Creed for ages, I actually played it after AC2 (I think), but back then it was a good storyline, it has been extended too much which is something that will be hard to recover from. Istanbul would be awesome, it's a heavily congested city, if the mosques were the radio towers that would be AWESOME. It would've been difficult to get Desmond from Italy to Turkey but if they'd worked it somehow I would've been happy.
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I think the Weapon you are looking for is Sam's EMP Gun from Splinter Cell, or something like that, Desmond could use to disable power in Templar run Towers wubsmiley.gif

YEAH, something like that! That'd be sweeeeeeeet. Ohwell, got to wait and see I suppose. tongue.gif
    
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How on earth can you comment that they've changed the story randomly if you havent even finished the latest part of the story?
Can someone clarify for me, I havent quite finished Revelations yet, but where did this idea come from that the 3rd game was never meant to go to America? I can find nothing that supports this other than some evidence that points to other places such as China or Eygpt, but even then, that doesnt mean that other locations are a possibility.
And why does everything think that the Templars are in full control of the planet? (If this has to do with an event that takes place in Revelations, please place in spoiler tags) If they already had control of the majority of the planet, like what many people here seem to assume, why would they bother trying to get the pieces of eden if they already rule?
From what I gathered from the previous games, the templars are using this company, I forget the name, as a front for their operations. This does not imply that they are free to roam about as they please, if they were, again, why bother with the fronting company?
If any part of that is explained in Revelations, please say so, but do not give away any spoilers. Im going to pick up where I left off on Revelations tonight, although I wish I hadnt left it so long between playthroughs, I tried to play a bit on saturday but cant remember how to do anything lol.

I will try to explain things to you the best I can.

This is probably one of my favorite game (series) since Mafia City of Lost Heaven, Ubi uses a lot of People and Real Life Characters and events from my country and many parts of our history thats grayed out. Even the Whole "Assassins" (English word) and the Whole idea and sect of the Hassasin are all out of our history. Look here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hassan-i_Sabbah
and here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hashashin


Now how can I comment and be sure the game wasn't meant to take place in America?
Well first you have to read some of my post on top, look at it this way, I think I have been waiting for AC3 for many years now.
1. Look the Game, Original game that follows the works of Hassan his Sect and his Student (Altair) The whole story begins and ends during the time of Hassans stay in Syria during the 3rd Crusade,
2. After Hassans Death The Student Altair Becomes Master of the Hassasin order and eventually he or his kids move to Italy and take on a Italian name.
3. The Second game Follows Ezio the Italian and ends with Revelations(which I too haven't played yet).
4. All the events taking place in current time from when Desmond was Kidnapped from his Bartender job, it all takes place in or around Italy / France, That's where Desmond and His parents also grew up.

in my words According to what Ubi soft has hinted or said in the past 4 ~ 5 years
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i. They said the "3rd game will see Desmond turn into the ultimate assassin and fight modern day Templar's'
ii. The whole Plot revolves around the "2012" plot, so they have to end it before that and stop the Templars before they cause '2012'.
iii. All these years the whole background storyline since Desmond's Abduction actually took place in Italy / France Region.

Can you see where this is going? According to what we learned from Ubisoft over the last few years ever since the original game is that the "Third game Will see Desmond become the Ultimate Assassin fighting the Templar's" Not the Third game will be gearing towards another Assassins Creed 2 Like game where Desmond will be mainly exploring yet another Ancestors memories. Get My Drift?? I am saying that this game was not Intended. I wouldn't have had any problems if only they made this game a Spinoff like Brotherhood or Revelations, But dont make a Third game out of it, it goes against everything they said and hinted us all these years. Something has definitely changed since Brotherhood and they have shifted the game from their original intentions with the Revelations plot.

Hope that clears out what I am trying to say here, I hope I didnt offend you or anybody. thumb.giftongue.gifsmile.gif
Edited by TheBirdman74 - 3/5/12 at 6:06am
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What im reading there is nothing but speculation on your part.

"Third game Will see Desmond become the Ultimate Assassin fighting the Templar's" - That is completely open to interpretation, nowhere in that sentence does it say "players will play as desmond as the ultimate assassin." - We all know he gets his Assassin abilities from "bleeding" from the Animus, if anything that would suggest that becoming the ultimate assassin would require him acquiring the knowledge of more then 2 assassins, especially as during Ezio's time, firearms where still not the mainstream. If anything the American Revolution is a pretty good setting for training as an Assassin in a firearm heavy environment.

And just because the first game closely follows historical stories, I dont think you can expect the rest of the whole series to follow suit. In fact, it doesnt, your theory is blown out of the water with AC2. Unless you are going to try to convince me that AC2 was based on actual events. Im sure I read that Da Vinci was involved with templars...oh wait, that was the da vinci code....

You have very strong opinions of this series which are based on nothing but assumptions.


Now can anyone who has actually finished every current AC game please try to answer the questions raised in my previous post?
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http://youtu.be/BSa0Xg-YadY There is the youtube preview.


Edited by Maximuscr31 - 3/5/12 at 9:37am
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Wouldn't this would essentially mean that the story doesn't end in AC3, they are really going to continue to milk this franchise aren't they? rolleyes.gif
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Wouldn't this would essentially mean that the story doesn't end in AC3, they are really going to continue to milk this franchise aren't they? rolleyes.gif

It's going to be the final major release, however i wouldn't be surprised if they went down the AC2 sequel rout.
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It's going to be the final major release, however i wouldn't be surprised if they went down the AC2 sequel rout.

Guarantee that's false. There will be spinoffs galore - "major releases" all - and then probably another setting/ancestor. Ubisoft started the Assassin's Creed IP with a trilogy in mind, then they caught a wiff of $$, and everything changed.
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Look at Sam Fisher in Splinter Cell Conviction or Double Agent, Did he really need a Nano Suite with Cloking Capablitys or any Other Power Suite?

AC is about CQC. Sam Fisher uses guns and lots of them. Game, set, match.

Why do you keep talking about Splinter Cell? That game isn't anything close to AC's style of play. 1 lone person sneaking into a base is quite different than a major open city.
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Conviction I know is not what me and you would call a 'true splinter cell' per say, but Sam seemd to have gone through pretty heavy stuff pretty well and most of the time undetected too. This is Assassins Creed, Not Crysis

And this is Assassin's Creed, not Splinter Cell. I don't want to play some James Bond type that has to infiltrate a base using a bunch of high tech guns and grenade launchers. See what i did there? BTW, Ubi already HAS Splinter Cell, why would they make 2 franchises the same?

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when you are a One Man army wrecking crew. Desmond Doesn't need to go in Blazing Guns with hund reads of Bullets being shot at him. All he needs to do is sneak in, do things quietly, not engage a entire army by himself. Sure Give him a few gadgets and a suite, something like Batman or Sam Fisher with a few minor improvements here and there, but not a Nano suite thats being proposed by so many users here. I mean if you want a nano suite you would be playing Crysis or Halo, Story line and location are the two most important things in the game, unfortunately I dont think the location and time period is the best.

I constantly point to the nano suit that Solid Snake had in MGS, not to Crysis. I know you think MGS, Crysis and Halo are all the same b/c they have a suit but they're really not.

Have you ever played MGS? I don't think you have by the way you talk. It's the original stealth game, before Ubi decided to imitate it with Splinter Cell.

Never once did i propose to change the dynamics of the gameplay, that's your own inability to think without your previously held biases. And btw, between Solid Snake's nano and Batman's suit, what's so different? The point was Desmond needed something to absorb a few bullets, to help him blend into crowds and to help him avoid face detection software and security cameras. Maybe he could use a little extra speed or power but nothing on Crysis's level.

Besides, i've already laid out some logical reasons why something LIKE a MGS nano suit is needed by Desmond if you're hosting an AC in a major modern city.
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The american revolution setting is bit of turn off for me, I would have preferred the civil war. I'll probably still buy the game though.
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What im reading there is nothing but speculation on your part.
"Third game Will see Desmond become the Ultimate Assassin fighting the Templar's" - That is completely open to interpretation, nowhere in that sentence does it say "players will play as desmond as the ultimate assassin." - We all know he gets his Assassin abilities from "bleeding" from the Animus, if anything that would suggest that becoming the ultimate assassin would require him acquiring the knowledge of more then 2 assassins, especially as during Ezio's time, firearms where still not the mainstream. If anything the American Revolution is a pretty good setting for training as an Assassin in a firearm heavy environment.
And just because the first game closely follows historical stories, I dont think you can expect the rest of the whole series to follow suit. In fact, it doesnt, your theory is blown out of the water with AC2. Unless you are going to try to convince me that AC2 was based on actual events. Im sure I read that Da Vinci was involved with templars...oh wait, that was the da vinci code....
You have very strong opinions of this series which are based on nothing but assumptions.
Now can anyone who has actually finished every current AC game please try to answer the questions raised in my previous post?

Hold Your Horses Bud, You are intentionally misinterpreting what I said.
1. This is not My theory, I just told you what happens After the events of Assassins Creed 1.
2. The Story may be 'loosely' base on actual events but no where did did I say Anything about the AC2 being based on actual events where some guy goes around stabbing people?
3. Where did I even mention Da Vinci?
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Now can anyone who has actually finished every current AC game please try to answer the questions raised in my previous post?

What kind of an Ignorant Comment is this? All I gave you was the Story line of the game itself, After the Events of Assassins Creed 1 Altair's Decedents move to Italy and assume Italian Names. Then the events of Assassins Creed 2 take place during the 15th Century.

Did You even read what I wrote or just went on typing an argument. You Do Realize that
1. The Whole Plot taking place outside the animus (as in current time take place in Italy / France Region? They actually drove him to Ezios Villa
2. The Whole Plot Revolves Around a 2012 Plot and that Desmond has to Stop The Templar s beforehand?
3. Having this guy go back in the Machine in the 3rd game to only Explore another Ancestors memories in America goes against everything they have building up to.


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Here is something more for you
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In Assassin’s Creed we set up a timeline with this whole end of the world plot in December 2012… That’s fast approaching, and the story we have to tell, we obviously need to do it before we arrive at that point.

- http://www.videogamesblogger.com/2009/06/10/assassins-creed-3-will-see-desmond-become-the-ultimate-assassin.htm

If they Spend most of the time exploring another Ancestors Memories then I doubt they will be able to fully cover Desmond until the next year. 2013.
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