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I find it funny how the younger people in my generation have little to no value for their own privacy and would gadly trade it away for a bite sized snickers. And don't think about disagreeing with said group over privacy, or they'll throw out every fallacy in the bookand your opinion will be marginalized as the rantings of a hermit/tinfoil hat wearer/ conspiracy theorist/village idiot/etc.
    
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I find it funny how the younger people in my generation have little to no value for their own privacy and would gadly trade it away for a bite sized snickers. And don't think about disagreeing with said group over privacy, or they'll throw out every fallacy in the bookand your opinion will be marginalized as the rantings of a hermit/tinfoil hat wearer/ conspiracy theorist/village idiot/etc.

What privacy do you insinuate that we are giving up exactly? Because all I see being collected are minuscule things like what kind of products I frequently search for and my geographical location, and both are for a pretty good cause: efficiently deliver ads to me that I might ACTUALLY have even some MILD interest in. I think my neighbor whose name I don't even know is more into my privacy than that.

Still don't really see the big deal over this. Their data collection is not changing in any way, they are only now combining your data between multiple services like GMail, YouTube, and Google search. Wait, that means I won't see obnoxious Youtube ads about cleaning products and will get some ads for new games, movies, car products, and specials for some of the other gear I actually have interest in? Sign me up.
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In a world lacking accountability lawsuits are all we have.
Personally I'm quite sick of Google and their advertising goals.

I agree. I feel like I could go back to 1998 and browse the internet in peace. I'm sick and tired of doing a google search then for the next two weeks seeing what I searched for on every single ad on every single site I go to. It sickens me.
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Am I the only one who really doesn't care about what Google is doing, and would rather just hear people shut up and quit complaining?

Most of Google's services are free, if not all. Obviously to keep it free they need to allow other companies to advertise on their services. We all know this, still use their services, and still complain?

It's like getting a pizza for free and complaining it doesn't come with sausage... you're lucky to even get it for free.
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post #25 of 39
That guy with the Desire S.

He just wants a new smartphone. Plainly put.
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Originally Posted by Artikbot View Post

Pretty obvious right?
It's like trying to buy from Amazon without a billing address, or a way to pay the items.
Google offers some services that requiere some ToS to be accepted. A Google account is the way to ensure those are met. It would be ridiculous if anybody without any kind of confirmation to any agreement could make free use of the market.
Yes, but the Market could use other terms that don't allow this, just so Android users have a choice. Oh wait...

The problem is this: the Market is pretty much required for every Android phone. To use the market, you must sign into a Google account, subjecting yourself to their privacy policy. While technically you could avoid signing into your account, this makes the phone lose a lot of its value, effectively forcing you to sign in.
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post #27 of 39
Sounds like most people are entirely mis-understanding google's changes in their terms. Google is gathering absolutely zero additional info about you than they did before. And if you think going to a different phone manufacturer or carrier will ensure more privacy, then you're sadly very ignorant.

What is so dumb-founding about this is that you don't need to be signed into a google account to use your phone. You can use your android phone without having to use google's services. Yes, it's difficult since google accounts are so tied into the basic workings of what people want to do with their phones, but if google responds to this small claims, it would be pretty easy to convince a judge that nothing is deserved by the plaintiff since they are not being forced to use google's services.
    
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I agree. I feel like I could go back to 1998 and browse the internet in peace. I'm sick and tired of doing a google search then for the next two weeks seeing what I searched for on every single ad on every single site I go to. It sickens me.

I'll third this. Not only is it annoying to constantly get ads of things I've searched just once, but if there's sites I've searched that I'd like to keep quiet for whatever reason and someone close to me happens to be using my computer and getting plastered with the same ads, it's not going to take long for them to catch on. I'm not against the idea of advertising but as long as advertising companies are trying to collect my data in order to do it, I'm going to choose to do without while browsing.
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Not a big deal. It's actually good that Google is trying to streamline its vast gamut of services and pool all your search results for convenience.
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What privacy do you insinuate that we are giving up exactly? Because all I see being collected are minuscule things like what kind of products I frequently search for and my geographical location, and both are for a pretty good cause: efficiently deliver ads to me that I might ACTUALLY have even some MILD interest in. I think my neighbor whose name I don't even know is more into my privacy than that.
Still don't really see the big deal over this. Their data collection is not changing in any way, they are only now combining your data between multiple services like GMail, YouTube, and Google search. Wait, that means I won't see obnoxious Youtube ads about cleaning products and will get some ads for new games, movies, car products, and specials for some of the other gear I actually have interest in? Sign me up.
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Am I the only one who really doesn't care about what Google is doing, and would rather just hear people shut up and quit complaining?
Most of Google's services are free, if not all. Obviously to keep it free they need to allow other companies to advertise on their services. We all know this, still use their services, and still complain?
It's like getting a pizza for free and complaining it doesn't come with sausage... you're lucky to even get it for free.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=29369

DHS says they're going to monitor people even more than they already do with ECHELON and voila, Google changes the way their servers and products work. Nothing wrong indeed rolleyes.gif
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