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... except that the 7970 costs the same as a 3GB 580 and is much faster? kookoo.gif
For the price of your SLI 580s you could've gotten three 6970s which would outperform your setup considerably

And 1000 more bugs to boot. Soon as these cards hit the shelves pricing is going to change for all the cards.
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Nvidia CEO: "Remember waiting for Fermi and Bulldozer? It'll be that good."

but.... Bulldozer was crap
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Originally Posted by veyron1001 View Post

I didnt forget anything. The 580 loses against the 6970 in every way besides outright performance and the fact its made by Nvidia (nvidia fan boy ignorance).

GTX580 runs Cooler, Its Quieter, Overclocks more, Higher Performance.
HD 6970 has more vRAM, Costs Less, Scales Better in CFX.
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post #154 of 289
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Originally Posted by Sir Beregond View Post

Unbeatable? SWEET! Oh wait...no benches. Put out or shut up.

Fixed. smile.gif
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And 1000 more bugs to boot.

still buying that AMD's drivers are all terrible?
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You like to exaggerate don't you? The 6970 launched at $379 USD. The 7970 @ $549 USD. That is a 30% increase in price, for a 40% increase in performance. Nice math skills. Do you just write whatever comes to mind without actually researching what you post? The readers here aren't stupid, and they can damn well do math. Stop putting AMD down if you're going to exaggerate the facts. At least use valid arguments and valid data to substantiate your claims, instead of falsities. Also, cherry-picking one benchmark isn't the correct way to compare cards either.
And Nvidia's cards aren't having trouble keeping up with the 79xx series? Oh, thats why the 7950 beats the 580 for $100 cheaper, and the 7970 can surpass the GTX 590 ($750 card) with a mild overclock.... right. rolleyes.gif

There's no exaggeration. I looked at newegg. The first 6970 I saw was 350 USD. I did the same for the 7970. The price was 560 USD (and that's a reference powercolor, for crying out loud.)

Math lesson. 350 + 60% = 560 USD. I am comparing prices AS THEY STAND and that is all that matters. Some readers here can do math, but it's not you. If you want to use your numbers, Mr. math wiz, you might want to review them as well: 379 + 45% = 550 USD. So who's exaggerating here.......? rolleyes.gif

Calling 36.4 to to 48.8 a "40%" increase IS an exaggeration. Pardon me! Perhaps 35% would have been a better number to choose, but I was quickly going through numbers, and even that is over 49fps. So, since you want to be so precise (yet can't count when it comes to pricing..) it's a 34% increase in performance. ..For... let me repeat it for emphasis.. a SIXTY PERCENT IN PRICE.

And, btw, let me remind you, the 7950 doesn't "beat the 580 for 100 USD cheaper". It's barely 50 US cheaper, and you're ignoring many, many games. It's give and take. You might want to check reviews ONE more time..

As for falsities, look in the mirror before calling the kettle black, mk? thumb.gif
BC2: http://www.guru3d.com/article/his-radeon-hd-7950-review/19
BF3: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5476/amd-radeon-7950-review/12 (beats the 7970 even at 25 x 16.. despite having half the VRAM)
SC2: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5476/amd-radeon-7950-review/13 (loses at 25 x 16, but has a handy lead at 19 x 12, for kicks check out the 1650 x 1080 numbers, rofl)

I'd say that winning in ~half the games is doing pretty well for a GPU as old as the 580, and architecture as old as Fermi, and a process node from 2009. Since AMDs newest architecture, on a smaller process node has this much trouble with the 580...
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... except that the 7970 costs the same as a 3GB 580 and is much faster? kookoo.gif
For the price of your SLI 580s you could've gotten three 6970s which would outperform your setup considerably

Yeah, until I needed physx or played a highly tesselated game. How about you stop trying to convince me what hardware I should have bought and worry about your own rig?
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still buying that AMD's drivers are all terrible?

More than 2 cards are a nightmare to get working right, duh. more pain than they are worth. I have a lot of friends with amd(and they are amd fanboys) rigs and cannot stand xfire.
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Kep Kep Kep Kep buy my gtx's so I can buy some Kep!!!

Nvidia ftmfw!

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More than 2 cards are a nightmare to get working right, duh. more pain than they are worth. I have a lot of friends with amd rigs and cannot stand xfire.

bull****. both amd and nvidia drivers suck tbh. both have problems and I had more problems with SLI than crossfire. I've used 480 SLI and 470 SLI on my past two builds and having a 2 monitor setup I had a lot of problems with nvidia even now they can't fix a simple problem of downclocking to 2d clocks with 2 screens. never had this problem on my 6870CF and 5970+5870 builds.

the bottom line is they both suck. those say that the other one is better is an idiot and a fanboy.

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i see you have a bulldozer smile.gif
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