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NVIDIA Releases a 680 which is 10 to 20% better then the 7970.
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AMD Reduce the price of their cards by 10 to 20%
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Consumer wins either way.

I am actually hoping the 680 blows the 7970 out of the water so we can see some price reductions. thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by rcfc89 View Post

Yeah its pretty sad. Nvidia will be basically doing it arse backwards.. Jan 9th Amd releases there flagship single gpu card (7970). A month later they release a suitable runner-up to their flagship with the 7950. 2 months later they will release the fastest gpu ever made in the 7990. With Nvidia its here is are runner up gpu in March/April and 2-3 months later are flagship 680 (5-6 months after 7970) maybe longer who knows. We will be lucky to see the 690 by the end of the year putting the 7990 a whopping 9+ months ahead with 28nm tech. Fan boys can say and speculate all they want but what is clear is Nvidia dropped the ball on this one. By the time Nvidia's cards are back on top in performance and taking back control of the gpu market Amd will have there 8000 series in production and out by Jan of 2013. I wanted to go Nvidia but there is no way I'm going to be able to pass up the 7990. And by the time the 690 comes out the 8990 will only be a few months away again reclaiming its reign.

So using this logic.....you should never buy a card because a better one will always come out after it?
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I updated my last post if anyone wishes to view it and comment. I've said my piece. I'm staying Nvidia.
     
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Nvidia CEO: "Remember waiting for Fermi and Bulldozer? It'll be that good."
 
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Originally Posted by veyron1001 View Post

Yea unbeatable high pricing and power consumption.

Yes because AMD isn't on the high price rollercoaster ride at all rolleyes.gif
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You sir are delusional. The 350.00 card coming in April is a 660ti replacement which will be on par with the 7950 supposedly. The 680 coming out in god knows when (June-August) will be at least 6-7bills if it trounces the 7970.

Exactly. Why would a company spend that much time and money developing a product to sell it for 30% less than what the market dictates? They're already missing out tons of potential sales by coming out so late.
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a 7970 is overpriced compared to AMD's earlier tactics though. It still has about the same die size but they just threw out the sweet spot pricing this gen.
Nvidia could pull a '4870' with KG104. We'll just have to wait and see.

Part of that is the rising costs of R&D and/or production and part is the lack of competition from Nvidia. AMD dropped the first DX11 card with the 5870 and it was 6 months before Nvidia responded - do you remember how that affected prices? Do you also remember how availability kept the prices high for longer than usual?

The difference from this and AMD's earlier tactics is the 6 month gap green team can't seem to close. So until Nvidia gets their crap together AMD will continue with their current business model: Beat Nvidia to market, thus having a few months to yourself. By the time Nvidia responds they will have recouped enough expenses to slash prices. If it were my company I'd do it the exact same way.
    
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when is this supposed to be released? very intredasted in how many shaders these will have
    
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'better pricing and less power consumption' ?? I kinda love both brands for their own ways, but seriously, the days that AMD's got better pricing/power consumption are pretty much over... They've always been hunting nvidia's spot on the market, no doubt about it. I'm pretty sure they still try to keep their name as 'cheaper' and 'draws less power', but if you want to go head to head with nvidia... changes will certainly happen. The 7970's price tags are as bad as they could get o: €650-€750 doesn't reflect AMD's 'lower pricing' behaviour imo.
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Well Nvidia really knows how to rub the bellies of their fanboys. I'm hoping to hear some more concrete details about Kepler soon... there's too many conflicting rumors. I'd be interested in reading on its architecure, like I could for GCN 9 months ago.

I do hope Kepler does well as far as pure gaming performance goes, although I'd be pretty disappointed if it didn't offer any new features. GCN already incorporates a lot of what Kepler has been promised to do, so it'll be interesting to see if Kepler offers something unique (and useful... screw the proprietary crap).

GCN brought DX11.1, unified memory adresses, 4kx4k resoultion support, QuickSync-esque transcoding and a big boost to double precision floating point performance.

Sure, Kepler can (probably) game, but what else can it do? AMD caught up with compute... Nvidia needs a shining new innovation to brag about.

Also, I've stated this several times: HD 7xxx is priced high right now because supply is less than or equal to demand. They're selling out pretty well, and there really isn't a point to drop the price at the moment. As 28nm wafer production ramps up, you'll see prices drop. AMD might hold off until Kepler releases to adjust pricing, but those of you upset at AMD for high launch prices should point your finger elsewhere. TSMC is the reason why AMD couldn't hard launch until January, even though they taped out last February, and they're part of the Kepler delay as well.
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36 Members viewing this thread. Wow.

Speculation please.
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