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As much as OCN hates it, the rest of the world loves it. Record sales for each new CoD game, obviously they're doing something right.

If you mean brainwashing 12 year olds, then yea I guess they are doing that right.
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I liked BO. Got ~ 55 hours in MP. Got the game for $30. Thats 50 Cent per Hours. Cheap Entertainment.
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I liked BO. Got ~ 55 hours in MP. Got the game for $30. Thats 50 Cent per Hours. Cheap Entertainment.

I got CSS for $20, and have over 1500 hours.....thats like less than 1 cent/hour....cheaper entertainment, plus a ton of mods and custom maps, all for free.

Thinking back, I probably have over 1500 hours of Call of Duty (not the damn series, the game) + Call of Duty: United Offensive, which also had free mods and free custom maps.
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From what I can tell there are more adults playing CoD games than teens. I've played most of the CoD titles, they're not excellent, but they are entertaining. And no, I don't just buy each one to say I have the latest one. I also play BF3, also entertaining, but not any better IMO. It is however different from the previous one much more than CoD titles are from their previous titles.
It seems to be there is a small group of people that likes to complain about things like CoD, and a large group of people who are busy playing games while others complain.

Anyone who was of a fan of the franchise when the original came out understands how CoD lost it's integrity long ago. It is only people new to the game (CoD 4 or later) that buy these games up every year. They stopped trying to produce good games when Infinity Ward split up and on top of that they add Treyarch solely to pump out more games so they can get as much money as possible before riding the franchise straight into the ground. Justin Beiber is making a ton of money too, does that make him a good artist or good puppet? I only complain because the original CoD and CoD:UA are some of my favorite games and it's such a shame to see that franchise go to waste. Hopefully Respawn Entertainment can redeem the FPS genre from the crap their former employers put out.
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Anyone who was of a fan of the franchise when the original came out understands how CoD lost it's integrity long ago. It is only people new to the game (CoD 4 or later) that buy these games up every year. They stopped trying to produce good games when Infinity Ward split up and on top of that they add Treyarch solely to pump out more games so they can get as much money as possible before riding the franchise straight into the ground. Justin Beiber is making a ton of money too, does that make him a good artist or good puppet? I only complain because the original CoD and CoD:UA are some of my favorite games and it's such a shame to see that franchise go to waste. Hopefully Respawn Entertainment can redeem the FPS genre from the crap their former employers put out.

+Rep for that.

CoD + CoD: United Offensive were the two best games out of the series of games and very few realize how each game after them has just been worse and worse.
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Anyone who was of a fan of the franchise when the original came out understands how CoD lost it's integrity long ago. It is only people new to the game (CoD 4 or later) that buy these games up every year. They stopped trying to produce good games when Infinity Ward split up and on top of that they add Treyarch solely to pump out more games so they can get as much money as possible before riding the franchise straight into the ground. Justin Beiber is making a ton of money too, does that make him a good artist or good puppet? I only complain because the original CoD and CoD:UA are some of my favorite games and it's such a shame to see that franchise go to waste. Hopefully Respawn Entertainment can redeem the FPS genre from the crap their former employers put out.

The definition of a good game is subjective. Do you think the millions of people purchasing the game don't think the game is 'good'? Just because you don't like it, or think the originals were the best, doesn't mean it's not a good game, it just means you don't like it. Is it possible you liked the originals more because they were the first games to do what they did in that way? I partially agree with you, in that it's a shame we can't get something more original, but that doesn't make the individual games bad.

The point you made above (which I've bolded) simply means that you found the originals different enough from the newer ones, and that you liked the originals more. Some people may see it the other way around. For example, I loath Far Cry 2, others thought it was great. It's subjective, neither I or they are more or less correct about that.
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The definition of a good game is subjective. Do you think the millions of people purchasing the game don't think the game is 'good'? Just because you don't like it, or think the originals were the best, doesn't mean it's not a good game, it just means you don't like it. Is it possible you liked the originals more because they were the first games to do what they did in that way? I partially agree with you, in that it's a shame we can't get something more original, but that doesn't make the individual games bad.

Honestly we can't truly know if people think the game is good.

I GUARANTEE the majority of their sales come from people who buy it because of..

1. A commerical
2. Their friends bought it
3. OMG everyone has it I have to have it
4. Well I bought the last one so might as well buy the next one
5. Bias reviews that say the game is good when it really is just a rehash of 3-4 years ago.
6. They are 12 and buy stuff without actually thinking about their purchase.

I'm sure there are plenty of more reasons why people buy each one year after year, and because they think the game is "good" probably is not one of them.
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Honestly we can't truly know if people think the game is good.
I GUARANTEE the majority of their sales come from people who buy it because of..
1. A commerical
2. Their friends bought it
3. OMG everyone has it I have to have it
4. Well I bought the last one so might as well buy the next one
5. Bias reviews that say the game is good when it really is just a rehash of 3-4 years ago.
6. They are 12 and buy stuff without actually thinking about their purchase.
I'm sure there are plenty of more reasons why people buy each one year after year, and because they think the game is "good" probably is not one of them.

So just to be clear, you think people may be spending money on a game that they do not think is a good game?

EDIT: I do agree it may happen that they see a good review, buy it, and dislike it. But I would hope that wouldn't happen more than one year in a row. The false reviews may happen more than one year in a row, but hopefully not the purchasing of the game.
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So just to be clear, you think people may be spending money on a game that they do not think is a good game?

Yes, they buy it because of the previously stated reasons, not because it is a good game.

You do realize that is what commercials are for, right? They try to make you buy something without you actually making an educated decision about it and without comparing it to other products out on the market that are probably better.

Unlike the majority of Americans (which I would call stupid), I am not swayed to buy an item because of a commercial, or because other people bought the item, etc. I research all my purchases before I make them.

It does make me sad that advertising works. I mean it seems ridiculous to me that someone would buy something because and advertisement tells them too......doh.gif
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I like CoD games, but this is ridiculous! maybe one every 2 years so we can enjoy the one that is out and this will give the devs a little more time to make somthing more unique.... I have a feeling that Black ops 2 will feel like a black ops mod (like MW3 was more like MW2.5). oh well
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