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Internet was created for Piracy of all sorts. They should Take the Internet Down.
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And you asserted he would be found innocent. A lot of others here asserted he would be found innocent because of the mean old American Government and abusive FBI. It's okay to make assumptions if you are on the innocence side and on Kim's side, but if you should be against him...
You shouldn't be alive
You are a donkey
You are ignorant
Etc. Etc.
Right?

I asserted he would be found innocent because of the current evidence. It is the American Government that protects him via DMCA.

I said you are ignorant because you did not know what the DMCA covers. You did not prove me wrong.

EDIT: However, the donkey and shouldn't be alive ones were completely unacceptable and I'm very upset at the individuals who posted them.
Edited by RussianGrimmReaper - 3/2/12 at 11:19am
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The allegations against him say the opposite. If they can prove it, which they claim they can, what say you?
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We are fighting vehemently because you asserted that he would be found guilty by no other reasoning than you opinion after viewing an indictment.
No one should ever be considered guilty even by opinion because of an indictment. It leads to people making assumptions and paints the defendant in a negative light. By expressing your opinion you could help in damning him.
Additionally, you never expressed why you wanted him to be found guilty.

Hey who needs a trial, who needs proof? Humafold says the FBI claims they can prove it, so tada he is guilty. Why bother, it's the FBI they are perfect, if they charge you, you might as well be thrown in jail since they wouldn't charge you unless they could prove it right?
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Internet was created for Piracy of all sorts. They should Take the Internet Down.

RIAA/MPAA would love to do that probably, and then people would just go back to recording things from TV and copying CDs and DVDs, thus only moving the problem.

edit: why am I a criminal guilty of piracy for, say downloading an episode of Family Guy, but is recording that same episode from TV perfectly fine?
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DMCA -
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It criminalizes production and dissemination of technology, devices, or services intended to circumvent measures (commonly known as digital rights management or DRM) that control access to copyrighted works. It also criminalizes the act of circumventing an access control, whether or not there is actual infringement of copyright itself. In addition, the DMCA heightens the penalties for copyright infringement on the Internet
IMO Kim is guilty of violating the above. I know what the law is and I believe he broke it. The laws of our nation always allow interpretation. I hate the people who come on saying, "you don't know the law... blah blah blah" while thinking they do.
Again, IMO Kim is guilty and I hope they nail him to set a precedent that this won't be tolerated. Playing the game of, "sure illegal things were going on under my companies name, but I'm hands off and therefore have no responsibility," should not be tolerated.
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Please tell me how uploading files constitutes the dissemination of technology, devices or services intended to circumvent DRM. Next thing you'll tell me that emails infringe on the DMCA as well? Same thing, you upload the files to a server from where they can be downloaded. Not at a single step is DRM circumvented.
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If you own an apartment building, and there are drug deals going on in the parking garage, which you never step foot in because everything in the garage belongs to your tenants, what is your crime?
If you take a look at a lot of law cases in the states you will see that the managers/owners of apartment complexes have been forced to hire security to promote safety in cases where it wasn't provided adequately. It's not a crime you are charged with, but the expense rests on you to correct the problem.
I stand by my interpretation of the law and I am not attempting to get you to agree with me. I really don't care if you do, or if you don't. There seems to be a lot of people in agreement with me and hope that Kim is found guilty. I truly hope he is and precedent is set for the interpretation of DMCA.
By hosting the illegal content and KNOWINGLY allowing it to be transferred over his servers he is in violation. We can pretend all we want he didn't know what was going on. Right. Sure. Back to work...

Ignorant. Sigh. He clearly said he knows that the Internet is used for both legitimate and illegitimate purposes - but they went above and beyond to make sure that the illegitimate uses are kept at a minimum and fully cooperated with film studios etc.

You have already made up your mind before reading up on any evidence and your "interpretation" is merely designed to reaffirm your already established beliefs. No one in their right mind would interpret it the way you did because you are simply making up your own reality to fit your beliefs.

Or maybe you're just a troll. Idk.
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Ignorant. Sigh. He clearly said he knows that the Internet is used for both legitimate and illegitimate purposes - but they went above and beyond to make sure that the illegitimate uses are kept at a minimum and fully cooperated with film studios etc.

Right. It's okay for you to believe Kim, but not for me to believe the FBI.

The claim is that Kim is a liar and from what I have read about him I believe he is a liar. A former hacker and someone who obviously has no ethics. No, I don't believe him and you do. This is your right and that is my right.

I believe he KNOWINGLY used his empire to disseminate stolen property to profit from it. Am I right? I have no idea. We will see when the case is presented. Until the time the jury comes back with a verdict of innocent I will believe he is guilty.

Until the jury comes back with a guilty verdict you will believe he is innocent.

However, I'm ignorant because of this and I guess you're some kind of genius. I'm glad we had that discussion. /end
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I said you are ignorant because you did not know what the DMCA covers. You did not prove me wrong.

I have read the DMCA. I truly believe he violated it if the FBI's allegations are correct. I have no reason to believe they're not and as of right now I believe them to be true. Of course it needs to be proven in the court of law and I believe that will happen. I understand that you don't. Differing opinions. I don't think you're ignorant because you don't see it my way.
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EDIT: However, the donkey and shouldn't be alive ones were completely unacceptable and I'm very upset at the individuals who posted them.

Much appreciated. thumb.gif
Edited by Humafold - 3/2/12 at 11:31am
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Ignorant. Sigh. He clearly said he knows that the Internet is used for both legitimate and illegitimate purposes - but they went above and beyond to make sure that the illegitimate uses are kept at a minimum and fully cooperated with film studios etc.
You have already made up your mind before reading up on any evidence and your "interpretation" is merely designed to reaffirm your already established beliefs. No one in their right mind would interpret it the way you did because you are simply making up your own reality to fit your beliefs.
Or maybe you're just a troll. Idk.

Kim (Interview) - Megaupload went above and beyond to make sure that the illegitimate uses are kept at a minimum and fully cooperated with film studios etc.

FBI (from Arstechnica) - ...Megaupload merely wanted the veneer of legitimacy, while its employees knew full well that the site's main use was to distribute infringing content. Indeed, the government points to numerous internal e-mails and chat logs from employees showing that they were aware of copyrighted material on the site and even shared it with each other. Because of this, the government says that the site does not qualify for a “safe harbor” of the kind that protected YouTube from Viacom's $1 billion lawsuit.

For instance, the “abuse tool” allegedly does not remove the actual file being complained about by a rightsholder. Instead, it only removes a specific Web address linked to that file—but there might be hundreds of such addresses for popular content. (From Arstechnica)

There are two sides to every story. I expecct the truth to be in the middle. Kim: i'm innocent: FBI: he's guilty. Jury: give us the facts and we will decide.

The FBI provides plausable evidence of not conforming to DCMA as does Kim. Based on the information avaiable, I side with the prosecution. That is an opinion. That is not trolling.
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Kim (Interview) - Megaupload went above and beyond to make sure that the illegitimate uses are kept at a minimum and fully cooperated with film studios etc.

FBI (from Arstechnica) - ...Megaupload merely wanted the veneer of legitimacy, while its employees knew full well that the site's main use was to distribute infringing content. Indeed, the government points to numerous internal e-mails and chat logs from employees showing that they were aware of copyrighted material on the site and even shared it with each other. Because of this, the government says that the site does not qualify for a “safe harbor” of the kind that protected YouTube from Viacom's $1 billion lawsuit.

For instance, the “abuse tool” allegedly does not remove the actual file being complained about by a rightsholder. Instead, it only removes a specific Web address linked to that file—but there might be hundreds of such addresses for popular content. (From Arstechnica)

There are two sides to every story. I expecct the truth to be in the middle. Kim: i'm innocent: FBI: he's guilty. Jury: give us the facts and we will decide.

The FBI provides plausable evidence of not conforming to DCMA as does Kim. Based on the information avaiable, I side with the prosecution. That is an opinion. That is not trolling.

Exactly!

If Kim says it - Fact
If FBI says it - FBI is on MPAA payroll - Don't listen! You are a fool!

This doesn't go for all the Kim supporters who are posting, but definitely for a number of you. Note: Not you RussianGrimmReaper
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You are clearly not familiar with the law.
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Originally Posted by Humafold View Post

DMCA -
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It criminalizes production and dissemination of technology, devices, or services intended to circumvent measures (commonly known as digital rights management or DRM) that control access to copyrighted works. It also criminalizes the act of circumventing an access control, whether or not there is actual infringement of copyright itself. In addition, the DMCA heightens the penalties for copyright infringement on the Internet
IMO Kim is guilty of violating the above. I know what the law is and I believe he broke it. The laws of our nation always allow interpretation. I hate the people who come on saying, "you don't know the law... blah blah blah" while thinking they do.
Again, IMO Kim is guilty and I hope they nail him to set a precedent that this won't be tolerated. Playing the game of, "sure illegal things were going on under my companies name, but I'm hands off and therefore have no responsibility," should not be tolerated.
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okay, dont use youtube or google because they all facilitate piracy and you are so noble as to support the big music and movie companies.
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okay, dont use youtube or google because they all facilitate piracy and you are so noble as to support the big music and movie companies.

I don't use YouTube, so I can't respond to that, but I don't see the connection between what Google does and what MegaUpload did. To me it's apples and oranges, but maybe you could explain it in a way I would understand.
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