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Why do you make us such speech ?
I'd suggest you to read the interview instead and especially the part where he says that the majors had direct access to their servers.

Hush! If ignorant people use their brains the universe might spontaneously combust!
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Why do you make us such speech ?
I'd suggest you to read the interview instead and especially the part where he says that the majors had direct access to their servers.
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Hush! If ignorant people use their brains the universe might spontaneously combust!

Yeah. Kim Dotcom said it, so it must be true. rolleyes.gif Just like the 80% of people in prison who proclaim their innocence.
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Its not the movie/music industrys job to police other peoples website once again driving cost up. And yes you should be responsible for what is on your site. Does ocn not delete post of with picts of porn and other stuff against its TOS. Its called admining your site. And its not about a control of information its about a product that a business produces being stolen from them. If there was no illegal movies or music on the site it would still be up and running today. The problem is people dont consider it stealing because its so easy to get. Throw a couple in jail for a couple of years and make them pay the companys back and it will slow down a lot. If you went and hooked a cablewire from your neighbors house to yours is that not stealing? Same thing.

First of all I'm going to say this... not every crime has to lead to prison time, it should be reserved for violent and sexual criminals. Lol @ importing your prisoners...
Secondly OCN is a forum with thousands of users, not a file sharing website with millions of users. I have seen explicit pictures on this site that have remained up for a fair bit of time, this site does also rely on it's community to help moderate which is essentially not much different than what KD was doing with the exception of giving content makers full admin privileges...I'm almost willing to bet my rig that the same companies and employees of those companies trying to incarcerate this guy used his service to check out the competition if not just for the same reason everyone else would.
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I also see a bit of parallels with what Gabe Newell said about piracy in the sense that he also says it is a service problem and not a price problem. If anything the interview really does show how corrupt the FBI is
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Even if the MPAA had the ability to go on his site and delete content, that is Kim's responsibility. Do you really think the MPAA should be responsible for going on thousands of file sharing sites to delete illegal content? Get real.

It was Kim's responsibility. When you run a business you are responsible for said business. In the world of the internet if you run a host site then yes, you are responsible for everything your users host. It's Corporate Law 101. If you don't know that going in, then you shouldn't be running a business.
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Hush! If ignorant people use their brains the universe might spontaneously combust!

I don't think he would say it if this wasn't true : he says that the majors had direct access to Megaupload servers, this is a fact ; either true or false, not like something which can be discussed.
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Even if the MPAA had the ability to go on his site and delete content, that is Kim's responsibility. Do you really think the MPAA should be responsible for going on thousands of file sharing sites to delete illegal content? Get real.
It was Kim's responsibility. When you run a business you are responsible for said business. In the world of the internet if you run a host site then yes, you are responsible for everything your users host. It's Corporate Law 101. If you don't know that going in, then you shouldn't be running a business.

You are clearly not familiar with the law.
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Can't understand the hate on him ... Have you actually read the interview? This guy sounds legit:
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KD: Well there are other laws that protect users and those are privacy laws. For example in the US it’s the Electronic Communication Privacy Act which prohibits us from looking into the accounts of users proactively and look for things. It’s like mail, it’s private, we cannot just go in there and police what these users are uploading.

KD: Yeah. It’s kinda like weapon of mass destructions in Iraq, you know? If you want to go after someone and you have a political goal you will say whatever it takes. These are fabrications and lies. There are a hundred other companies out there that offer the same service like us. Why has not something happened to them?
JC: Can you give me a name? Just name…can you give me a couple of names?
KD: Many sites. Mediafire. It’s based in the US, offers exactly the same service like us.
JC: File-sharing opportunities?
KD: Yeah. Rapidshare, Fileserve, Filesonic. Microsoft has their own service called Skydrive. Google is launching a new service called Drive. Everyone is in this cloud arena, in the same business, has the same problems that we had battling piracy. But we are not responsible for the problem and this is, I think, what everyone needs to understand.

He knew about illegal stuff but what can he do for that?

If you regularly download files on internet. You can still get illegal content from Rapidshare or Wupload just to name few. RS recently lowered the download speed just to prevent pirate from using their web site. The problem is still there and those companies cannot be responsible of this... Even youtube has a lot of problem with that. You can get free music FROM youtube wink.gif

Maybe he could have done more.... Maybe but is this worth jail time and complete lost of his company?
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You are clearly not familiar with the law.

Incorrect. Bad assumptions are bad.

If I create a site that hosts and allows file sharing and my site is hosting illegal content, then I am responsible. Period.
Edited by Humafold - 3/2/12 at 5:43am
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Even if the MPAA had the ability to go on his site and delete content, that is Kim's responsibility. Do you really think the MPAA should be responsible for going on thousands of file sharing sites to delete illegal content? Get real.
It was Kim's responsibility. When you run a business you are responsible for said business. In the world of the internet if you run a host site then yes, you are responsible for everything your users host. It's Corporate Law 101. If you don't know that going in, then you shouldn't be running a business.

How about this then, pirated content gets shared daily on YouTube, it gets taken down by both YouTube and DMCA requests.
Pirated content got shared daily on Megaupload, it got taken down by DMCA requests.

At face value it looks like Megaupload is being lazy and not doing anything about piracy, but that's just not true.

Compare the types of files that get shared on either website;
YouTube - Videos, which are very easy to check for pirated content.
MegaUpload - ANYTHING, including password protected .rar or sections of .rar parts, with these kind of password protected files MegaUpload cannot simply determine whether the content inside is infringing copyright or not. They would have to crack the rar password then check the files inside, a great deal more difficult than simply checking an unencrypted video.
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