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Because gaming gear does is not the same thing as skill. On top of that, surround sound headphones are a joke.
OP is asking for tips on play style, not hardware upgrades and pro settings.

Surround sound headphones are a joke I completely agree. Which I even mentioned in the same post or earlier post that it's better to buy a pair of stereo headphones with a large sound stage.

samwiches listed three things. FPS, which should be above 60 for the games I've listed in previous post. The part where he mentions that you need a 120Hz LCD/CRT was poorly worded and is not needed. Do I think you should have one though if you're able to? Yes, most certainly!

He says you should turn off VSYNC, which is a setting should indeed be turned off. The way that vsync is coded will result in mouse lag in any game period. The amount of mouse lag though is determined by the game. SSAO, again should also be turned off, unfortunately I don't know if it actually gives a disadvantage in BF3 as I've always had it turned off. Normally though SSAO will provide too much lighting in your game which is the reason why it needs to be turned off.

Surround sound headphones is his last argument, and well you can already see where I stand on that one already.

EDIT:
Thought about SSAO a little more, and I have a feeling it gives you a slight disadvantage in fact due to the already overwhelming lighting in this game (blinding sun).

Sure these are only settings, but they can help you to become a better player. Definitely looking at you VSYNC!
Edited by dmasteR - 3/1/12 at 11:52pm
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Because gaming gear does is not the same thing as skill. On top of that, surround sound headphones are a joke.
OP is asking for tips on play style, not hardware upgrades and pro settings.

True, there is no "gamer" upgrade that provides necessary skills, but sensory acuity is very helpful to start with, especially when you feel like your performance has hit a wall like the OP probably has.

edit: should mention that the only surround headphones I've heard are the Logitech G35's that I own, but I know what I hear (we all do).

edittttt: when I mentioned SSAO, I had forgotten about the blinding lights that are sometime part of the maps in many eye candy games. The most obvious flaw is that it tends to make the mouse a feel sloppy.
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Sorry, I'm not here to pick on anybody but those were rude and ignorant posts.
There is a world of CRT gaming behind us that is just now being resurrected with 120Hz flat panels.
Honestly, if you can't see 100 FPS and you're also a knowitall then you can't be helped.
And seriously, you're ~probably~ not one of the best shooters on one of the best teams around.

Lose your arrogance please, this guy wants help not an argument.

All I can really suggest is practice, practice and more practice. Sometimes people are lucky and have some natural talent(as an example I'm above average in the chopper just from sheer talent, with practice people can't shoot me down), but in my experience practice makes by far a much bigger difference. If you give yourself enough time you should be doing really well. There isn't anything wrong with being above average though(as you already are it seems), as long as you enjoy playing the game that's all that matters.
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There's a lot more that goes on underneath the skin be it bf3, cod, black ops or any other multiplayer game for that matter! Come on guys who hasn't messed around with snaps, fov, maxpackets etc etc etc in their configs before? For instance i watched a few videos the other week of a competitive team on bf3 using macros to cancel out recoil on different guns! woooooow where is the skill in that! Honestly multiplayer games these days are who can bunnyhop the highest, who's got the best config, who can afford the better rig!

Online gaming needs to have the playing field evened, i really dont want to murked by a person who can afford a better monitor than me, i dont want to be sniped from a person who can afford 3 gtx 580 in sli, i don't really want to be shot first by a person who sits there all day creating macros to cancel out recoil!
When playing online all configs, resolutions, monitor refresh rates, keyboard or mouse macros should be at default setting for all! thumb.gif
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Something that took me from Cal O to Cal M in CS 1.5 way back in the day was, aim high. Always aim where their head is going to be. You have to take into account the distance and angle they are at and where you expect them to be.

Others have had some good recommendations, keep moving. Keep looking around, know your surroundings is real important in BF3.

Knowing the map is key as well. Know where people are going to camp, where they will snipe from, where to expect the people with shotguns (close corridors).

As for the gear, it does help to sustain high fps, however not required. Vsync does introduce mouse lag, but it varys from game to game. I never use it. Having a good set of cans helps in locating enemies, but this is less important in BF3 as it is in more competitive games like CS. BF3 is more about the ambience and feeling of the game, you didnt hear that kind of stuff in CS. You just focused on footsteps.

Biggest thing is going to be practice. Ive been playing FPS on computer for almost 20 years. Once you get good, you can pretty much adapt your skills to any FPS.
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True, there is no "gamer" upgrade that provides necessary skills, but sensory acuity is very helpful to start with, especially when you feel like your performance has hit a wall like the OP probably has.
edit: should mention that the only surround headphones I've heard are the Logitech G35's that I own, but I know what I hear (we all do).
edittttt: when I mentioned SSAO, I had forgotten about the blinding lights that are sometime part of the maps in many eye candy games. The most obvious flaw is that it tends to make the mouse a feel sloppy.

Fine and all. I just don't think one should drop serious cash like that before they're actually good enough to utilize the equipment. It didn't sound like OP was going pro, he just wants to not get owned by other non-pro players. If it means anything, I apologize for my first post. Playful jest/sarcasm should be avoided on forums! I may have sounded like an ass but I was really just poking fun because I disagreed.
 
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You're playing Battlefield 3, where no one in this game has any idea what footsteps noises even are. On top of that, the majority of BattleField players have absolute garbage hand eye coordinating. How good you're at this game will hardly transfer over in CS/Quake. The basics will obviously transfer over (aiming, etc) but in game smarts will hardly transfer over as the majority of the players in BattleField are idiots.
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I agree with most of this. I agree that most BF players are garbage and their "skill" won't transfer to higher skill capped games but my skill came from different games lol. I more recently got into BF from twitch based shooters. I play CSS when I have time and I actually prefer it over BF a majority of the time. Also I think that CSS skill transfers to BF better than BF skill transfers to CSS so if someone played CSS/quake for a while then got into BF they'd be better off with their abilities.
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Thread Starter 
Thanks for the suggestions guys. I appreciate it.


I think most of you mention practice which is quite true. I am more of a casual gamer (5 - 10 hours a week) and I usually play BF3 nowadays.

Regarding the equipment etc., I think I'm doing okay in that regard! wink.gif [see sig rig]

The thing is, since I play in Surround mode @ 7680x1600, I have all the settings except shadows on Ultra. I have HBAO turned on and AF is set to x16. I can't use MSAA because of the VRAM limitation - even with 3GB cards!

At this resolution, I get anywhere from 30-70FPS depending on the map and the intensity of the firefight. I am also using the FXAA injector which makes everything look pretty damn good. I also have a custom sound system so I hardly use headphones (Sennheiser) as I like to hear the bass etc.

That "rivaL" video was really impressive. I liked the way he hung back and took the enemy out strategically. I think that's one thing I should improve for sure because I tend to just run out into the open where the action is. I don't like to wait around for the action to come to me. I TAKE THE FIGHT TO THE ENEMY! MUAHAHHA.. (and get owned in the process LOL)

The other thing that pisses me off is nobody seems to work as a team. I have a few friends who play but I usually can't play when they can and vice versa. I am usually "on my own" and my so-called squad doesn't do anything as a squad! Each man for himself seems to be the motto of most of my rounds in BF3. I think the fun factor would increase exponentially if I could play with a squad of guys who know what they are doing and can communicate with each other.

I guess I'll keep practicing but as far as strategy is concerned, any further ideas?
     
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Get very familiar with your keyboard and mouse so using the controls come extremely natural, and then I suggest moving around alot. Kill cams always show where you are, so enemies cant come back to get you if you are constantly moving. Taking flags is huge also. Im usually towards the top of my team when I am running around and taking flags. Being very familiar with the maps also helps.
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dont forget to set up some good key bindings! I put switch fire mode to the back button on my mouse and change vehicle weapon as well. I have found that to be very nice for doing those things quickly.
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