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Quote "as long as you enjoy playing the game that's all that matters."
That's what games are for smile.gif!!! If I where in the army I'm sure I wouldn't have any time to enjoy BF3 "I don't get much time now smile.gif" I can possibly bet the OP has a higher rank than myself but I don't care! The game is the best to date imho "others may not agree" but I can assure you I will be having a great time on this game... In reality ... 1.Have fun...... 2.Concentrate & Practice........ 3.Enjoy the 3d sound lol......... 4.Add friends & stick together in squads keep to the plan and annihilate the opposing team smile.gif

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There's a lot more that goes on underneath the skin be it bf3, cod, black ops or any other multiplayer game for that matter! Come on guys who hasn't messed around with snaps, fov, maxpackets etc etc etc in their configs before? For instance i watched a few videos the other week of a competitive team on bf3 using macros to cancel out recoil on different guns! woooooow where is the skill in that! Honestly multiplayer games these days are who can bunnyhop the highest, who's got the best config, who can afford the better rig!
Online gaming needs to have the playing field evened, i really dont want to murked by a person who can afford a better monitor than me, i dont want to be sniped from a person who can afford 3 gtx 580 in sli, i don't really want to be shot first by a person who sits there all day creating macros to cancel out recoil!
When playing online all configs, resolutions, monitor refresh rates, keyboard or mouse macros should be at default setting for all! thumb.gif

you could always just play on a console where most everything is even lol!!
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Because gaming gear does is not the same thing as skill. On top of that, surround sound headphones are a joke.
OP is asking for tips on play style, not hardware upgrades and pro settings.

Surround sound headphones are a joke I completely agree. Which I even mentioned in the same post or earlier post that it's better to buy a pair of stereo headphones with a large sound stage.

samwiches listed three things. FPS, which should be above 60 for the games I've listed in previous post. The part where he mentions that you need a 120Hz LCD/CRT was poorly worded and is not needed. Do I think you should have one though if you're able to? Yes, most certainly!

He says you should turn off VSYNC, which is a setting should indeed be turned off. The way that vsync is coded will result in mouse lag in any game period. The amount of mouse lag though is determined by the game. SSAO, again should also be turned off, unfortunately I don't know if it actually gives a disadvantage in BF3 as I've always had it turned off. Normally though SSAO will provide too much lighting in your game which is the reason why it needs to be turned off.

Surround sound headphones is his last argument, and well you can already see where I stand on that one already.

EDIT:
Thought about SSAO a little more, and I have a feeling it gives you a slight disadvantage in fact due to the already overwhelming lighting in this game (blinding sun).

Sure these are only settings, but they can help you to become a better player. Definitely looking at you VSYNC!

This. Vsync makes my mouse feel so laggy, and I actually can't play shooters at <70 FPS anymore since getting a constant 125FPS in cod. BF3 is an exception because I've grown used to ~60FPS, but if I ever upgrade and the framerate goes higher, trust me it makes a HUGE difference.

120hz LCDs are AMAZINGly smooth, and they really do help your game. CRT is still king though, if you can handle them.

Sounds is very important, you need to be able to know exactly where your opponents are around you. That, along with knowing the map you're playing, will help you an unimaginable amount.. Like others have said, you need to imagine enemies popping out at every corner and opportunity and think about how you're going to handle it, and find the best way. Your reaction time needs to be good too.

One thing I don't think was mentioned was mouse sensitivity. Personally I'm a low sensitivity gamer, so I can flick my mouse and have control over where I'm looking at all times. I see a lot of other people tend to use quite a high sensitivity and when they spot an enemy they move their mouse too quickly and move the crosshair past the enemy, and then in trying to get it back on them they overcompensate. This is all because of the sensitivity being too high for them to handle. Of course you can learn to handle that sensitivity but honestly it's easier just to turn it down till you find a comfortable sweet spot. A sensitivity too low is also bad, because you can't turn around fast enough if someone pops up behind you, and close quarter combat becomes very difficult. There's no one answer to this, you have to find your perfect sens. Your mouse and mouse surface also play an important role in this.

Practice makes perfect, above all. Even though I don't belive in humans being perfect tongue.gif

Just my 2c. smile.gif GL OP thumb.gif
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Yeah great TF2 example. Only since a while back, I sucked at demoman. He was my worst class by far. Then I just observed a player who was owning with demo with a combination of weapons. I did the same, and now I do pretty well with demoman.
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Practice makes perfect, above all. Even though I don't belive in humans being perfect tongue.gif

I always think this is untrue. People say it all the time, and when they do... I think about how practice makes permanent . You can be doing the same thing over and over again, but if you are doing it wrong, it will never be perfect.
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lol in all seriousness do not take this advice. if you get 60 fps you are fine and vsync works great with BF3 and there is no mouse lag when using it. You do not NEED a 120hz monitor. Surround sound headsets are a gimmick and should never be purchased. Buy a decent pair of headphones and use a good soundcard (Xonar DG or DX are good ones for great prices)
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There is definitely mouse lag with vsync for me


As for as sound goes. Does a soundcard really help that well with positional audio with only stereo L/R channels? I know some have that "Virtual Surround" feature but what is really the benefits over onboard?
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There is definitely mouse lag with vsync for me
As for as sound goes. Does a soundcard really help that well with positional audio with only stereo L/R channels? I know some have that "Virtual Surround" feature but what is really the benefits over onboard?

Yes, Dolby Digital processing makes a virtual surround field using stereo channels.. sounds like a gimmick, yeah, I payed no attention to them for a long time. But after reading poor reviews on some of the 6-driver true surround 'phones along with the great reviews of the G35's in particular I just went and got some, yet fully intending to return them later.

But the first time I loaded up MW2 I could not believe how accurate and WIDE the effect was---it was a complete surprise. You need to be your own judge of sound quality, though. And you may need to set your OS or games for 5.1/7.1 for it to work, but I haven't bothered with any testing of that.
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Yes, Dolby Digital processing makes a virtual surround field using stereo channels.. sounds like a gimmick, yeah, I payed no attention to them for a long time. But after reading poor reviews on some of the 6-driver true surround 'phones along with the great reviews of the G35's in particular I just went and got some, yet fully intending to return them later.
But the first time I loaded up MW2 I could not believe how accurate and WIDE the effect was---it was a complete surprise. You need to be your own judge of sound quality, though. And you may need to set your OS or games for 5.1/7.1 for it to work, but I haven't bothered with any testing of that.

Oh yeah the "surround headphones" are awful tried a set of Tritton AX Pro 5.1's not only was the sound quality poor, but there is literally no point when the drivers are so close together.

Now if they made a gaming helmet, Similar to a small motorcycle helmet. You could actually place drives in front behind and on the sides of your ears so you would get a true 3D positional audio. You would look like a chode with it on, but I would still buy it. thumb.gif

So what are the defacto sound cards then?
     
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I'm pretty sure you don't use a sound card with a USB set. They use their own drivers and you just switch between devices in Windows.
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I'm pretty sure you don't use a sound card with a USB set. They use their own drivers and you just switch between devices in Windows.

Huh? What are you referencing here? If you are referencing drivers I was talking about Sound Drivers AKA Speakers. lachen.gif
     
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Keep vsync OFF. Disable any type of mouse acceleration, both in software _and_ hardware (go for an optical mouse). I really like my deathadder optical mouse for FPS, but this is highly subjective.
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