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Hey guys, looking to put together a WC loop some time in the coming few months. Want to keep folding during the summer without having to leave the fans on the GPU at 90%+ to reach temps I'm comfortable with. Currently, I'm running with a K62, which is obviously not big enough to fit anything beastly so I will be looking to change cases as well.

Components I wish to cool
CPU + GPU x 2

Goal for WC
Much lower fan noise from GPU, lower temps a bonus!

Components
RX 360 Kit + another 240?
Plan to use YL D12SH with fan controller on my rads
XSPC//EK Universal GPU Block + sufficient ramsinks for GPU
Tygon 7/16 ID Clear Tubing (10 ft?)
Silver Coil

Questions -

1. I have read that the XSPC blocks while being very good budget performers do tend to hinder the flow rate of the loop some. Some have recommended going with the EK Supreme HF as an alternative for much better flow. Would this make a huge difference on my loop for both the CPU and GPU? This particular review shows a huge difference in flow rate.

2. What type of replacement case should I be aiming for here? I was looking at the Xigmatek Elysium because it can fit either a 140.3 or 120.3 up top and the same can be done in the bottom as well. It costs a fair bit less than most other cases that would fit everything inside (like the Corsair 800D for example).

3. Looking at my list of components, are there cheaper components without having to skimp on performance? Not being very familiar with WC parts, I don't know if what I have selected is the most cost effective.

Thanks!
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Budget?

I would recommend the HAF series as a good, cheaper starter case. Those have the ability to natively mount a 3x120 radiator, which would be sufficient to cool your proposed setup. The NZXT Switch 810 also has a very reasonable price point, and has the ability to natively house a 3x140 radiator.

What GPUs do you plan on getting? That makes a big difference in heat dump in your loop.
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Looking good, you've already got everything necessary down. But I think an RX360 is more than enough for a cpu and dual 460s so the 240 wouldn't be necessary.
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Future GPU - I plan on sticking with the pair of 460s for now, but may swap to GTX600 series down the road depending on pricing. If I do, I will most likely swap to another dual-gpu set up just to maintain my folding production.

Concerning the case, I don't know how pricing is in NA, but here in HK the pricing is done slightly different:

Coolermaster HAF X - $200 USD
NZXT Switch 810 - Not going to be here for a few months, so no pricing figures just yet.
Xigmatek Elysium - $160 USD

I just checked on Newegg and the Elysium runs $220 before rebates, holy crap! Taking these new pricing figures into consideration, would you guys still recommend swapping over to the 810/X? Just from a compatibility stand point, it looks like the Xigmatek case has more room for add-ons later without having to mod the case.

The one concern I have with Xigmatek cases, is that the build quality isn't exactly amazing and the CS from my experience has been pretty awful.
Edited by Velathawen - 3/5/12 at 12:14am
post #6 of 15
Get the NZXT 810. A 420 radiator is more than enough to cool your needs. I have a 420 extremely high FPI radiator with 1500 RPM fans (not the best cooling scenario for the radiator, inefficient with these fans) cooling an i7 920 (hotter than your 2600k) and a 6990 (hotter than your planned GTX 460s combined). A single 420, lower FPI radiator would be more than sufficient, like the Black Ice SR-1 radiators. Plus, it has the ability to mount a 240 or possibly even a 280 radiator at the bottom of the case, further increasing your cooling capacity.
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1. I think that pump/res will be quite adequate even if you add the 2nd RX rad and use the Rasa CPU block. Assuming you route your tubing in a direct economical way.
To buy a different CPU block would mean, I assume, you drop the 'kit' purchase. Your post shows you already planning to replace the kits fans and tubing am I correct?

2. Case. How much are you prepared to mod? Actually I'm not a good person to ask about cases, my last two I made of board (sig rig) and I've just bought a CaseLabs M8.

3. I think your choices couldn't be better really as far as cost effectiveness goes.

The YLs you list are not a good match for the RX rads in my opinion. Too fast and too noisy, not really warranted unless you use a lot higher fin density rad.
Yes you state fan control, nonetheless for RX rads (I have 5 of them in use in 2 PCs) fan speeds of 1000 to 1500max are what you want. I highly recomend Scythe GT AP13 or AP 14s. I know they are more expensive, but they are worth it IMO. Save money not buying a fan controller and spend it on A grade fans of the correct speed for the rad/s.
Also bear in mind that sleeve bearing fans (which I think the YLs are) are not suited to mounting horizontally blowing up, doing so will wear them out quite a bit faster.
Edited by DiHyMo - 3/5/12 at 12:51am
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post #8 of 15
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Thanks for the quick replies guys, really really appreciate them.

With regards to buying a kit vs separate - I am trying to do the math and it looks like buying everything stand-alone is going to add an extra $100-$150 to the whole system. Maybe my math isn't correct, but the rad and EK CPU block alone would already be $160. Since my CPU doesn't run that hot and flow would be adequate even with the Rasa CPU block, I think I will end up staying with the RX 360 kit. Thinking about it, it really doesn't make sense given that I will be replacing the fans and the tubing but I do end up saving a bit here.

With the 810, I would need both hdd trays in order to mount my 4 HDD + 1 SSD. Is there a way to move one of the trays into the 5.25" drive bays? If I use both of them as they are stock, I think it would prevent me from installing an additional rad down the road.

Update:

Concerning budget, you guys need to keep in mind that I'm probably looking to pay around $80 USD or so on shipping to get everything here to HK from the US. Ideally I'd like to keep everything under $400 USD for just the WC parts.

Here is a list populated with some pricing:

Rasa RX 360 Kit: $190
EK Supreme HF Universal GPU Block: 58 x 2 = $116
Tygon 7/16 ID R-3603: 2.35 x 10 = $23.35
Enzotech Forged Copper Low profile VGA Memory Heatsink BCC9: 13.50 x 2 = $27
Silver Coil: $5

Total before shipping: $361.35
Estimating ~15-20 USD to ship to the company that will then bring it to HK
Shipping from USA to HK: ~80 USD.

Grand total is probably around $460 USD or so, ouch.

Also, would I need extra barbs//clamps? I don't think the Rasa kit is going to come with enough since it is only meant for a single loop CPU right?
Edited by Velathawen - 3/5/12 at 1:28am
post #9 of 15
I know what you mean, I got the shipping cost prob too, I'm in NZ. And them USD are always dearer then NZD.
Sounds to me like your thinking straight. thumb.gif
And I really think you'll be fine with the Rasa CPU block.
You will need barbs for the GPU blocks of course if they dont come with them. Have you considered how to plumb those 2 blocks? Much easier to do when you have them in hand of course.
I often use cable ties instead of clamps, they work very well and are aesthetically unobtrusive. And easily removable.

I wont tell you how much I like good compression fittings cos they're just plain expensive in comparison.
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post #10 of 15
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Ok so yet another cool development has taken place. Might have someone who is able to bring me back most of the WC equipment, so my current listing is looking like this:

Local
XSPC RX360 Radiator - $91 USD

Petras
EK Supreme HF Universal GPU Block Acetal + Nickel - $58 x 2 = $116 USD
EK Supreme HF Universal CPU Block Acetal + Nickel - $71 USD
Tygon 7/16 ID R-3603 - 10 ft (overkill?) x 2.35 = $23.35 USD

Jabtech
XSPC X20 750 Dual Res Bay 5.25 Res Pump - $50 USD
Enzotech BCC9 VRAM Heatsinks - $13.50 x 2 = $27 USD
Silver Coil - $5 USD


Total local : 91 USD
Total NA: 292.35 USD
Grand Total: 383.35 USD

Need some pointers on the fittings and barbs! Also, am I missing anything else?
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