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They don't think it be like it is, but it do.

damn.
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Who cares it's slower then older gen architecture that amd has. it's useless with it's deep pipeline like the Pentium 4.


Also I am claiming it's just a updated version of the Pentium 4


"8 cores" = E-pen is....
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Who cares it's slower then older gen architecture that amd has. it's useless with it's deep pipeline like the Pentium 4.
"8 cores" = E-pen is....

lol the later P4s' pipelines had like 31 stages; BD has around 18 or something

BD has 8 integer cores and 4 FPUs. That's why it excels in things like compression and other integer-based tasks. Bulldozer's FPUs have incredibly high IPC when FMA4 is used, but SSE performance is lackluster. Speaking of that, XOP is similar to FMA4 but is an integer ISA -- assuming similar performance gains on the integer side, I imagine 7-zip coded with XOP would show BD flying above the i7-3960X.

Also it's not slower than the previous generation. Worst case scenario is that it's equal to the X6 albeit at a considerably higher clock speed.

The FX CPUs are a bit disappointing but be rational. They're not *that* bad, they're great when utilized properly (they never are though and that's the problem), and the architecture has a lot of potential.
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The problem of calling them "integer" cores is they don't always do integer math.

From Agner Fog's microarchtecture.pdf
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Instruction decoding

The decode unit can handle four instructions per clock cycle. It is alternating between the
two threads so that each thread gets up to four instructions every second clock cycle, or two
instructions per clock cycle on average. This is a serious bottleneck in my tests because the
rest of the pipeline can handle up to four instructions per clock.

The situation gets even worse for instructions that generate more than one macro-op each.
The decoders cannot handle two double instructions in the same clock cycle. All instructions
that generate more than two macro-ops are handled with microcode. The microcode
sequencer blocks the decoders for several clock cycles so that the other thread is stalled in
the meantime.

The actual bottleneck but there is more. http://www.agner.org/optimize/microarchitecture.pdf

http://www.agner.org/optimize/blog/read.php?i=187
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So next gen consoles are truly weaker PCs now?

Worked well enough for the original XBox.
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why x86 not x64 ?

x86 is the general name for the ISA. x86-64 is an extention to that.

It probably is x64, and that's almost a given by saying x86.
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Originally Posted by Vowels View Post

for some reason they call 32-bit x86 and 64-bit x64.

x64 is a contraction. It's shorter to write than x86-64.
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Put a sandy bridge, you Sony! You never learn! BDZ sucks. 2600K kills it any day

CPU performance is less of a concern than GPU, and as this decision was likely made when Intel didn't have a competent iGPU, a trinity derivative is much more likely.

It should also be plenty fast enough.
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The resurgence of OpenGL could happen instead. wink.gif

Would be nice. I'd love to get away from Direct3D now that OGL 4.2+ has competitive features.
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lol the later P4s' pipelines had like 31 stages; BD has around 18 or something

P4 Northwood had 20 stages.
P4 Presscott had 31.
Bulldozer likely has a number of stages in the low 20s.

Not that any of these figures mean anything out of context.
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I don't know much about this stuff..So do you guys think the PS4 will be able to have graphics like this?

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with the right optimizations could come close but not exact
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Yeah, hopefully AMD doesn't have a Preshott... can't say either way as that would be years from now

Hopefully they have Northwood after Northwood. tongue.gif
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Bulldozer is just a Pentium 4 Class processor with 4 cores and 8 threads 8 so called cores
Also more then likely it will not be Fusion/Llano-like architecture No one in the right mind would use a IGP for a gamming system.
poor choice for a game system.

And how would you class the P4 and BD together? Apart from both having long pipelines, there's not much similar. And that's hardly a P4 exclusive thing.

As for APU on console...Yeah, no-one would use an IGP for a gaming system..Except the Xbox 360 slim already has an APU, and 2 Piledriver modules with a 800 GCN shader architecture with decent memory bandwidth as well as enough RAM would be a very good console. I mean, it's not like consoles have to stay under a certain power rating and its certainly not like IGPs are good enough for 99% of games, especially when DTM coding is considered.
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The internet agrees BD is a P4 class CPU.
I had many computers
AMD k6 -3
Pentium
Pentium 2
Dual pentium 3
Pentium 3
Pentium 4
AMD Athlon xp
AMD Athlon 64 S754
AMD Athlon 64 and Dual core upgrade S939
Pentium 4 laptop
AMD AthlonXP laptop
AMD Turion x2
Pentium M laptop
Core 2 Duo laptop Penryn
Dual Core 2 Quad system
Core i7 desktop.
So I do know how general performance is and the BD is sluggish like the Pentium 4 systems

The Internet also thinks that a 2500k is the holy grail CPU for every workload. It hardly is, a FX-8120 is far superior if you encode videos.

And there's hardly any Bulldozers in your list there, how do you know it's "sluggish"? And do you also realise any recent CPU is more than fine for general tasks? Add in a newer HDD or SSD and you're right.
Owning a lot of PCs means nothing, either. You can own as many as you want and learn nothing.
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Since everyone seems to bring this up for some reason, if they did use something like an 8 core BD, it would not be running the same as it currently does for PC games. It would be very well optimized, just like games are for current consoles and have been for past consoles.
That said, I highly doubt it would be an 8 core BD.

I reckon 4 core BD, and this is as true as you can get. If they use BD on a gaming console, it will be customized (Probably some new instructions, like with the Xbox x86 P3 based CPU) and even without any customizations, be way faster than we see in reviews, after all if you know every console will have XOP, AVX, etc instructions, you'd compile to use those. As opposed to PCs where only a few owners have those instructions.
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Who cares it's slower then older gen architecture that amd has. it's useless with it's deep pipeline like the Pentium 4.
Also I am claiming it's just a updated version of the Pentium 4
"8 cores" = E-pen is....

Which P4s did you own? Prescott was the bad one, and that was Intel taking the deep pipeline to the extreme. Northwood was a very good chip. And it hardly is "just a updated version of the Pentium 4", that's like saying that SB is just an updated version of the P2. They use a lot of the same ideas (And SB is actually based off architectures that were based off the P2) but it's hardly true.

Bulldozer is an entirely new architecture for a CPU, SB is a refinement of Nehalem (Which was a refinement of Conroe, which was a refinement of Dothan, etc)...All new architectures for x86 are lackluster at first. Pentium Pro? Lackluster (The P2 version was good, and all Intel chips except the Atom are based off it/it's ideas now) Pentium 1? Lackluster. (Later, dieshrunk versions were better). Pentium 4? Lackluster. (Willamette? Lackluster. Northwood? Good. Prescott? Crap.) K5? Lackluster. (K6, based lightly off it, was far better) 286? Lackluster. 386? Lackluster. 486? Lackluster (Last three mainly due to clock speeds at launch)
    
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I think Cedar Mill as worse than Prescott

http://ark.intel.com/products/27478/Intel-Pentium-4-Processor-630-supporting-HT-Technology
Prescott^

http://ark.intel.com/products/27479/Intel-Pentium-4-Processor-631-supporting-HT-Technology
Cedar Mill^

Oh, you sly Intel you just shrunk Prescott with absolutely no fixes. At the time, I had no clue what was what. Now I do! mad.gif
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Are you sure emulation and ports will be easier?

I recall that the Xbox is basically just a PC and is running a Pentium 3 processor @ 700 Mhz. Although to this day, we still do not have a working Xbox emulator........
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