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I'm pretty sure that most of OCN realizes Intel makes faster processors (if you don't factor in price in all areas).

The difference is not big enough to matter.
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I love how this thread is now all about how AMD's APU's are better than Intel etc etc.
If Sony could have got Intel to do this system for the price AMD are doing it, they'd be all over it and AMD wouldn't have got a sniff. It just so happens AMD have experience in this market and are going to take all the offers they get. Make no mistake about it, though, if Intel were a financial possibility it'd be done.

Except if they wanted an APU, in which case they'd end up with a slightly faster CPU (ie. Useless for consoles) and slower GPU (ie. Noticeable downgrade)

Not to mention, if AMD is doing the CPU, they'll use Piledriver which may be a decent amount faster than BD...AND BD is faster than SB when you use its newer instructions, that SB doesn't have. There's no point in going Intel for a console, it really would be the inferior product, no matter how much better it is for desktop PC gaming.
    
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A custom Llano chip and hybrid crossfire - thing would be unstoppable in a console just think a 6730A2 equivalent. It's perfect - cost effective and the performance would be insane.
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Except if they wanted an APU, in which case they'd end up with a slightly faster CPU (ie. Useless for consoles) and slower GPU (ie. Noticeable downgrade)
Not to mention, if AMD is doing the CPU, they'll use Piledriver which may be a decent amount faster than BD...AND BD is faster than SB when you use its newer instructions, that SB doesn't have. There's no point in going Intel for a console, it really would be the inferior product, no matter how much better it is for desktop PC gaming.

The performance difference in PC gamming, isn't that pronounced, and if most of the games were optimized for the new instructions, the difference would not exist.
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The performance difference in PC gamming, isn't that pronounced, and if most of the games were optimized for the new instructions, the difference would not exist.

True enough, but on consoles it just plain doesn't exist due to the extra efficiency.
    
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Except if they wanted an APU, in which case they'd end up with a slightly faster CPU (ie. Useless for consoles) and slower GPU (ie. Noticeable downgrade)
Not to mention, if AMD is doing the CPU, they'll use Piledriver which may be a decent amount faster than BD...AND BD is faster than SB when you use its newer instructions, that SB doesn't have. There's no point in going Intel for a console, it really would be the inferior product, no matter how much better it is for desktop PC gaming.
It all depends on the parts being used and the balance between them. I highly doubt they're going to go for an APU with custom AMD instruction sets thumb.gif
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It all depends on the parts being used and the balance between them. I highly doubt they're going to go for an APU with custom AMD instruction sets thumb.gif

It's a console, there will be plenty of custom stuff. The current generation's CPUs are entirely custom, I don't see why AMD couldn't give console manufacturers some custom instructions.
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that means console is transforming into PCs, so PC gaming isn't dead afterall xDDDDD
    
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Seeing as the PS3 version of Portal 2 (and CS:GO will as well) had steamworks integration allowing crossplatform multiplayer, steam chat, etc I'd consider this as not entirely unlikely.

Yeah that was kind of the idea I was running with, although The Verge's story on the "Steambox" seems to suggest otherwise, but I think this would be the best route for both companies.

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Except if they wanted an APU, in which case they'd end up with a slightly faster CPU (ie. Useless for consoles) and slower GPU (ie. Noticeable downgrade)
Not to mention, if AMD is doing the CPU, they'll use Piledriver which may be a decent amount faster than BD...AND BD is faster than SB when you use its newer instructions, that SB doesn't have. There's no point in going Intel for a console, it really would be the inferior product, no matter how much better it is for desktop PC gaming.

And SB is faster than BD when you use software specific to it's instructions. Piledriver kinda depends on the timeline. I honestly wouldn't be at all surprised if Sony used a Phenom II X6 or some such if they really are using an AMD CPU. Bulldozer seems really iffy to me, and Piledriver seems like the much better option on paper, but volume, price and availability could be a big issue for Sony depending on deadlines and projected budgets and individual unit costs. We'll see.
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It all depends on the parts being used and the balance between them. I highly doubt they're going to go for an APU with custom AMD instruction sets thumb.gif

If they went for an APU or any x86 CPU, they'd likely put some custom instructions specifically for games to speed up. The original Xbox did, and the chip has to be custom designed anyway.
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that means console is transforming into PCs, so PC gaming isn't dead afterall xDDDDD

Hardly. It means that at least one of the nextgen consoles simply is using the x86 instruction set and its additions/extensions.
    
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