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Hey all,

I'm asking this from a point of ignorance, so have a little patience with me. Is water cooling really necessary with today's hardware?

I built my rig a year ago with the intention of adding a water cooling loop to it at some point in the future. Right now, I'm on air. I just checked my temps and the CPU is 29 degrees and the mobo is 28. Would water cooling really make that much of a difference? I'm running a 24/7 OC @ 4.8 and those are my temps. I'm pretty darn happy with that. With Sandy Bridge the way it is, and Ivy projecting to be even better, is there really a "need" for water cooling today?

Just curious...
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post #2 of 20

With the numbers you're seeing and if you're happy with your overclock and not having issues when the computer is stressed, then your particular configuration seems to work perfect.  No reason to change.

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Those are most likely your idle temps which are meaningless and watercooling wouldn't help lowering them unless you plan to chill the water somehow.

I do video encoding and my CPU can be at 100% for days in a row and overclocked at 4.7, I'm reaching temps of around 60C with watercooling.

If you don't strain your CPU much, watercooling isn't very useful, but if you do, then it becomes necessary.
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You are going to get a wide variety of conflicting opinions on the matter, but I will insert mine. I do not think WC is essential in any regard especially with the upcoming and efficient Ivy chips. Manufacturing processes are focusing on producing more efficient and cooler chips in both the CPU and VGA segments. I really only believe that WC is more of an aesthetic thing, and a hobby that you must be passionate about. You can make an awesome and inspiring work of art that will turn heads if you know what to do and what parts to buy.

A decent CPU heatsink / closed cooling solution, and an aftermarket VGA cooler are all you need to have a quiet and fast system. However, as I mentioned, if you want to make your computer truly unique, the option is there with water cooling.
    
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What are your prime95 temps
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WCing is also good for smaller form factor builds where air flow or space constraints limit cooling.

also, while i can hit awesomely low temps under load, and that's great, it's about the cooling/noise ratio. i can keep my pc at a reasonable temp under load (50-60) and it's whisper quiet. if it were this quiet with air coolers, it would be on fire. wink.gif
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post #7 of 20
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Originally Posted by Lou3824 View Post

Hey all,
I'm asking this from a point of ignorance, so have a little patience with me. Is water cooling really necessary with today's hardware?
I built my rig a year ago with the intention of adding a water cooling loop to it at some point in the future. Right now, I'm on air. I just checked my temps and the CPU is 29 degrees and the mobo is 28. Would water cooling really make that much of a difference? I'm running a 24/7 OC @ 4.8 and those are my temps. I'm pretty darn happy with that. With Sandy Bridge the way it is, and Ivy projecting to be even better, is there really a "need" for water cooling today?
Just curious...

No. You do not "need" to water cool. Air cooler's can handle modern hardware just fine.

However a custom water loop is always better. It will cool better than any air cooler and be a lot quieter. You can push your overclock to an absurd level, and its fun to play with. Its more of an extremist hobby.
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I just recently got into water cooling. Why? Because I can.... Nah, Because I wanted a closest to silent I could possibly get. Which while running all your hardware at or near max loads a majority of the time is nearly impossible. Opinions will be opinions. But I had a 5.2ghz chip, that ran near 78c@ 1.48v with two 1700rpm fans running as well as they could. Not to mention the heatsink, and processor were both lapped to 2000grit. Loud by anyones standards. Now that I broke that chip, and not running nearly as heavy of an overclock, I still find it useful to keep my components as cool, and a quiet as possible. Which when being fully honest, even the best air coolers will not do very well when the fans are below 1200rpm. With that being said.

I do not think water cooling was ever a necessity, its always been an option, and will always be an option. There are niche markets for pretty much any hobby, or product out there. Water cooling, does show proof of its effectiveness. How much you take advantage of that or not, or find it necessary or not is up to each individual user.
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What are your prime95 temps

^this..lets see what those temps are under prime.AFIK nothing truly keeps the heat down on a highly overclocked sb
edit:I bet it goes over 74c
 
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If you're talking about facts and not a million opinions, then water cooling isn't necessary by the pure fact that air cooling exists. If it was 'necessary', then it would be the worst mandatory cooling method along with better methods.

Secondly, silicon based chips use more power the hotter they are which means keeping your hardware under lower temps will save electricity.

Thirdly, lower temperatures will elongate the life of your hardware.

Fourth, Some people prefer a quieter solution or when heavily overclocking.

Fifth, Since you mentioned 'today's hardware' I'm going to assume gpu's are included and they can regularly get above 90c which would show massive improvements when under water.

Sixth, It's a hobby for some people. Activities that help people from going crazy from everyday boredom and redundancies. In that sense, it may be necessary for mental health. such as any other fun activity.
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